In this episode, Greg sits down with Olivia Rose, Founder and CISO of the Rose CISO Group, to talk about her role in "CISO: The Worst Job I Ever Wanted," a groundbreaking cybersecurity docuseries that reveals the real experiences of Chief Information Security Officers. This podcast uncovers the pressures, sleepless nights, and personal sacrifices these leaders endure while making critical decisions and shouldering the responsibility of defending the digital world. Through honest and compelling stories, listeners gain a rare glimpse into the human side of one of the most challenging and misunderstood roles in technology.

In our reporter chat, Greg Otto talks with Derek Johnson and Tim Starks about their deep dives into why Salt Typhoon may never be out of U.S. telecom systems.