On Tax

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Steve Gordon served as Head or Co-Head of Cravath’s Tax Department from 2000 through 2020. In this episode of On Tax, he talks to host and fellow Cravath partner Len Teti about the many different paths people take into tax law, how his interest in transactional work led him to the tax practice at Cravath—where high‑profile M&A and other corporate transactions are a cornerstone—and the collaborative, trusting culture he worked to cultivate in his years leading the Firm’s Tax Department. (This episode of On Tax was originally published on April 13, 2021.)

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Dana Frenkel is Global Head of Employment Tax at JPMorgan. In this episode of On Tax, she and Cravath partner and host Len Teti discuss their experiences starting as associates at the Firm around the same time. Dana also speaks about her career transition to an in-house role and how she expanded her tax expertise to be able to provide global employment advice.

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Paul Stepak is a partner and the National Practice Group Leader for the tax group at law firm Blake, Cassels & Graydon LLP in Toronto, Canada. In this episode of On Tax, he and Cravath partner and host Len Teti talk about collaborating closely on cross-border transactions and how the transition from associate to partner is more gradual than some might expect. Paul also highlights the senior partner who sparked his interest in tax and, as a result, the mentorship he offers junior attorneys in his own group today.

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Cravath alumnus Tom Brennan is the Stanley S. Surrey Professor of Law at Harvard Law School. Before he turned to tax law and academia, Tom received his bachelor’s and master’s degrees, as well as his PhD, in math. In this episode of On Tax, Tom talks to Cravath partner and host Len Teti about the unexpected paths his career has taken and how he helps to guide law students who are exploring their interests in the tax field.

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Sheila Warren is CEO of Crypto Council for Innovation. In this episode of On Tax, she talks to Cravath partner and host Len Teti about starting her career as an associate in the Firm’s Tax Department and how following her passion for the arts and community service led to a varied career that has so far included stints as an expert in exempt organizations law, software product developer, senior executive at a technology nonprofit, and founder of the digital assets team at the World Economic Forum.

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Heather Benjamin is a partner in the Trusts and Estates Department at Cravath who joined the Firm as a corporate associate and completed banking and capital markets rotations before moving to her current practice. In the Season 4 premiere of On Tax, she talks to fellow Cravath partner and host Len Teti about why she decided to transition to trusts and estates and how she enjoys the combination of technical tax elements and complex interpersonal dynamics in the work she does now.

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On Tax returns for Season 4 on Tuesday, September 6. This season, tune in every three weeks as Cravath partner and podcast host Len Teti talks to professionals in the world of tax about their varied careers and what they’ve learned along the way. Next week’s guest is Cravath trusts and estates partner Heather Benjamin, who discusses her transition from corporate work as a young associate to her current tax-adjacent practice. Learn more about On Tax at cravath.com/podcast.

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Lauren Angelilli is the Head of the Tax Department at Cravath, and Ting Chen is the Firm’s Corporate Hiring Partner. In this re-release of our special recruiting episode of On Tax, Lauren and Ting talk to fellow Cravath partner and On Tax host Len Teti about their own experiences coming to the Firm, what law students can expect during their callback interviews, and the types of meaningful work that associates take part in when they come to Cravath. (This episode of On Tax was originally published on August 24, 2021.)

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Patrick Lee is Vice President and Chief Tax Officer at DTE Energy in Detroit, Michigan. He began his career in public accounting before joining the tax group at a Detroit law firm and later clerking for the U.S. Tax Court in Washington, D.C. In this episode of On Tax, Patrick and Cravath partner and host Len Teti discuss the impact that mentorship has had on Patrick’s professional development, both as a junior associate and as a senior executive today. Drawing from his experience managing an in-house team, Patrick offers insight into developing the business acumen that distinguishes the best tax lawyers.

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