Great episode with Holly Grace Williams of Secarma. Holly worked in secure communications in the military, before mastering in Information Security and a career in penetration testing. As managing director of Secarma, Holly specialises in ethical hacking, pen testing, red teaming, as well as physical access and social attacks. We also touch on the deep and the dark web, and some of the security risks of social media including Tik Tok, the video sharing app that could gather personal data on millions of users. Powerful insight into the world of a front line security professional.