Kelly and Lalita share their own backgrounds and how they got interested technology innovation. They also share the origin story of the podcast!

Other hot takes on this week's episode include:

- Do we actually want to work at the top of our license?

- Sometimes fun solutions are better than efficient ones

- Big picture thinking to change systems and identifying stakeholders

In this week's episode, Lalita and Kelly speak with Dr. Sara Pastoor, a DPC family physician at People-Centered Health and the Head of Primary Care Advancement at Elation Health. Sara shares her origin story of her instrumental role in shifting the military from AHLTA (the armed services EHR) to safer interfaces, all the way to Elation Health which emphasizes the importance of co-development between family physicians and design/engineering teams.

She also shares some incredible leadership advice including:

- learning how to flex the muscle of "no"

- having strong clinical skills to have an influential seat at the table

- and how to engage with stakeholders who may not be on the same page as family medicine

Jordan Chanler-Berat, MD is an Emergency Medicine physician and the founder/CEO of POCUS Preceptor, a company that supports clinical learners to learn point-of-care ultrasound later in their careers. In addition to practicing at Baystate Health, Berkshire Health Systems, and Holyoke Medical Center and teaching at ultrasound at UMass Chan Medical School, Dr. Chanler-Berat spends time as a clinical advisor for Circucare, a novel wearable cardiac ultrasound biotechnology company. In this episode, Jordan, Kelly and Lalita talk about all things POCUS: including how to get training, use cases in primary care, the value of using the tools, an artificial intelligence augmented future for imaging, and how POCUS can democratize medicine.

Dr. Sarah Nosal, MD is the president-elect of the American Academy of Family Physicians and a practicing family physician in the Bronx. In this episode, Sarah shares her journey with Lalita and Kelly from her days programming a turtle in kindergarten to becoming the Vice President for Innovation & Optimization and Chief Medical Information Officer at The Institute for Family Health, a federally qualified health center in New York. Lalita, Kelly and Sarah talk about the importance of asking for what you want, designing "user error" to still be the correct outcome, and the importance of having excellent clinical skills to have credibility in making non-clinical decisions.

Travis Bias, DO, MPH, FAAFP, is a Family Medicine physician and Deputy Chief Medical Officer of Health Information Systems at Solventum, the healthcare business spin-off of 3M. Travis has had a varied career, including full time clinical medicine, peace corps work as a medical educator, and multiple roles within 3M. Kelly, Lalita and Travis talk about his experiences being the only family physician in a corporate setting, what the day to day entails, and how family physicians are perfectly situated for inter/multidisciplinary work in these environments.

Other topics covered include:

- balancing family life, a non-clinical corporate job, and maintaining a connection to clinical medicine

- AI charting: challenges and successes

- getting board certified in informatics in 2025 (if you want to)

And more!

We're back for 2025! In this episode, Lalita and Kelly speak with Elliott Wortham, a design and strategy consultant and the Director of Cove Studio in San Francisco, CA. Elliott helps us understand design principles for the family physician and how a fresh perspective is imperative to problem solving. Ultimately, each one of us can consider the unconsidered in our clinical environments to make it a better experience all around.

Thank you to all of our listeners for tuning in each week! In this episode, Kelly and Lalita reflect on an incredible year of doing 28 podcast episodes, and how these conversations have changed their perspective on technology in primary care, while impacting how they practice medicine on the ground. Kelly and Lalita highlight some of their favorite podcast moments and set intentions for the new year.

In the second to last episode of the season, Kelly and Lalita have a wonderful conversation with family physician, entrepreneur, and CEO of AskMeYourMD, Dr. Patricia Kelly Marsh. In this episode, Patricia shares with us how she is breaking the mold when it comes to telemedicine and payment models, and how the thing driving her through thick and thin is strong sense of confidence, faith, and believing in yourself at all costs. An inspiring and truly entertaining episode!

Dr. Robert Oh's career has spanned military service, residency education, and he now serves as the Chief Wellness Officer for the Veterans Affairs Health Care System in Palo Alto. An enthusiast for cutting edge medical innovations, Rob has used continuous glucose monitors since 2019 and advocates for their use in family medicine practices. In this episode, Kelly, Lalita and Rob discuss medical research, the challenges of applying statistics-based evidence based medicine to individual patients, and that the future of primary care will be patient-led.

** Opinions expressed are solely those of our own and do not express the views or opinions of our current or former employers, including the Department of Defense, Defense Health Agency, or Department of Veteran's Affairs.**

Dr. Katherine Davis is a family physician and educator with a background in health informatics. Dr. Davis was instrumental as residency faculty at Summa Health in Akron, Ohio and most recently took that experience to apply her expertise at scale at MDCalc. Kelly and Lalita chat with Katie about her experiences and how important it is for family medicine physicians to have a seat at the table in health technology.