This week, an issue near and dear to your hosts and even producer: clothes for short people. We interview Deric Cano, all around radiant, Californian, someone who loves/tries to support his home community, and  founder of the brand Art Cano. We chat about the struggles of getting a clothing brand off the ground, learning things on the fly, breaking gender norms, a deep love of vintage garments, stigmas around country of origin, buzzword designing, ethical manufacturing, and so much more!