President Trump’s criticism of NATO predates his presidency, but recent U.S. military operations in Iran have tested the alliance like never before. Amid the growing tension, NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte has managed to maintain a remarkably cordial relationship with the president, and he sat down with Bret last week to discuss the delicate balancing act of navigating Washington's demands while keeping the rest of the alliance unified. Later, the Secretary General also weighs in on the latest breakthrough in Iran negotiations and the critical state of the Russia-Ukraine war.

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