<p>Mary Chapin Carpenter and Sarah Kay discuss the songs "Old D35," "Farther Along and Further In," "The Dirt and The Stars," "It's Ok to Be Sad," "Where the Beauty Is," and "Nocturne."</p>

Mary Chapin Carpenter and Sarah Kay discuss the songs "Old D35," "Farther Along and Further In," "The Dirt and The Stars," "It's Ok to Be Sad," "Where the Beauty Is," and "Nocturne."

One Story Part One: Thousands of Different Ways

Hope Is A Muscle is a series of conversations between songwriter Mary Chapin Carpenter and others on the topic of how to find hope in difficult times.

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