Rob wants to make an anti hero song, Take your lumps like a man, and "not illegal" for a price?

Podcast backlash, "Dad Wars" and competitions, and somehow they even touch a bit on their faith and convictions.

Episode 14 is a part 2 of the visit with "HERBY'. In this episode the guys revisit basic military training in the Vietnam era verses the post 9/11 era, Rob has questions about the military, Kevin and HERBY discuss relationships in the military and the effect service has on future friendships post military service, and they go into talking about not being "That Guy" in the service. HERBY shares some fun adventures about his time spent in Korea.

Kevin and Rob have a special guest who is a Vietnam Veteran, a father, a "GRUMPA" and goes by "HERBY the Honey Badger". This special visit will be split between multiple episodes.

In this episode, they discuss where HERBY is from, stories from his childhood, talk a bit about his military experience, and they share some childhood shenanigan stories.

Kevin’s a main character, it’s not “neat” to be a twin, “always undersell yourself” guys!

Rob loves modular things, “Daddy Bootcamp”, Adventures of DIY concrete, and “Out-Dad’ing” your neighbors!

Rob has zero respect for wild animals and the love for dogs.

Do we as a society need a common enemy? Societal complacency, division, needing teamwork as a society, united over our collective history.

“Great men, make great times, weak men make bad times” WW2 Men (baby boomers), in hard times with zero great men, raising a slayer of dragons when it’s a time where there are dragons that need slaying.

A lovely orange store, stupid perennial bushes!