The Massachusetts Trial Court this week issued its new rules and regulations regarding public access to court records and it's fair to say officials erred on the side of less rather than more.

Esme Caramello, faculty director of Harvard Legal Aid Bureau and a tenants' rights advocate, and Todd Wallack of the Boston Globe, a member of the vaunted Spotlight team who has been at the forefront of reporters' attempts to bring more transparency to public records, joined us to talk about the new rules.