In this episode of Open Talk, host Caloy Conde sits down with award-winning Filipino author Jose “Butch” Dalisay Jr. to explore the fascinating intersections of writing, poker, and life lessons.
Dalisay—author of more than 45 books and countless essays, short stories, and columns—shares his experiences as a writer, teacher, and poker player. He talks about his latest book "Windows on Writing," his ongoing projects, and how poker has sharpened his discipline, mindfulness, and storytelling craft.
This insightful discussion sheds light on why poker is not just gambling but also a game of skill, character, and philosophy—teaching lessons about risk-taking, humility, patience, and resilience that apply both to writing and to life.
👉 If you’ve ever wondered how great writers think, where they draw inspiration, and how games like poker can shape creativity, this conversation will surprise you.
Don’t miss this rare, candid talk with one of the Philippines’ most celebrated literary icons.
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HIGHLIGHTS
00:00 Introduction – Caloy Conde welcomes Jose “Butch” Dalisay Jr.
01:39 Launching Windows on Writing and reflections on 45 books
05:15 From literature to poker: Why talk about the game
06:09 Gambling or discipline? Dalisay on being a recreational player
10:12 Why poker is skill, not just chance
15:13 Poker at MetroCard Club – community and culture
17:17 The poker community: Grinders, stakers, pros, and amateurs
19:45 How poker fuels writing and storytelling
26:12 Life lessons: Risk, humility, and resilience at the table
27:22 Managing victories and defeats without ego
33:40 Cognitive benefits: poker as mental sharpness training
36:00 End
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