Maddie Duke, Sebastian Jimenez, and Victoria German all completed master's degrees in ABA and OBM in the last two years. Join these recent graduates as they discuss what happened after graduation- including the decision to become certified by the BACB® or not, finding jobs, and dealing with toxic productivity and burnout.

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