Loki chats with composer Shawn E. Okpebholo about the idea of "music for music's sake", the importance he puts on responding to calls for social justice, and his latest release, "Songs in Flight". Loki compares backlash against Beyoncé's Grammy wins to society's general aversion to musical evolution and change.

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• Shawn E. Okpebholo
• Songs in Flight
• Songs in Flight Live from the Met Museum
• Beyoncé Backlash