Or So They Say ...

Happy Thanksgiving, spooky crew! We’re glad you’ve decided to join us on a little getaway from family/friend shenanigans. This week we are perusing the east coast for legends of Thanksgiving ghosts, and New York and Pennsylvania did not leave us disappointed. Both involving railroads, one with an annual appearance, and one, if proven true, the largest mass murder in the state’s history, there is no shortage of fuel for ghostly hauntings. So grab a plate or two, and let’s get to it.

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Welcome to another rousing episode of Or So They Say, where this week we take you to our neighbors to the WEST (not the east, Kelsey), Illinois! This is actually a location we have considered investigating in the past, but now it's a little questionable if that's even an option? Who knows, but the Joliet Prison actually packed some pretty spooky punches, even for us. There's a lot of goosebumps to go around this time, so brace yourselves.

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Yes, this is actually the name of the place. There's even a skinwalker ranch right next to it! So why did it get that name? Well, obviously because of all of the skinwalkers that creep around there at night. Rooted in Native American legend, these skinwalkers have been cursed to be here, and if you ask some people, they're definitely still hanging around. We're living vicariously through The Paranormal Files as they spend hours alone in the middle of the valley, and let's just say we're glad it was them and not us.

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We're back with a crossover for you guys! The retro club has joined us to discuss spooky movies we watched over the month, and our thoughts. This is a pretty relaxed episode, so enjoy!

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Don't worry y'all, we're still alive, and after some much needed vacation and honeymoon time we're back! With all of the events of the past couple weeks bogging us down we decided to come back with an easy and entertaining one. Today we're discussing Halloween traditions; how did they start, where did they come from, and why do we still practice them? So welcome back, everyone, and we hope you enjoy.

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Well, happy Thursday? With an episode like this, we're not really sure, but let's try to make the best of it shall we? Life is a bit hectic at the moment, so this isn't actually a place we visited, but honestly we're not even a little mad about it. Is it haunted? Maybe not, but is it spooky for literally every wrong reason? Absolutely. There is a trigger warning for this one, and the TW is this: yes. Honestly, she's gross, so just try not to think too much about it, and we'll get through this together.

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Whelp, better late than never. We didn't want to leave you hanging on the last state in our US alphabetical tour! So we brought you this gem from Buffalo, WY. A surprise and delight if we do say so ourselves. We've got all sorts of ghosts here with lots of back stories, and somehow in the midst of all the spookiness we still found something to be emotional about. So check it out, as we plan our next trip into the paranormal.

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Another week another ghost, or how about a whole group of them? This school house turned haunted house turned out to be truly haunted after all, and we're gonna talk about it. They all seem pretty harmless, except for that janitor. Nobody likes a creepy janitor. Especially one that lives in the basement. 

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You read that right. We're taking a slight detour from our usual spooky ghosts to discuss a different kind of supernatural: Mothman. Why does he hang out in West Virginia? What drew him there? Is he still there or does he travel the world scaring folks and wreaking havoc? And possibly the most pressing question; is he truly one of our generations greatest gay icons? Well, let's dive in and find out. 

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Shades of Death; a pretty ominous name, you might say. Well, it didn't just get that name for fun. This park actually has a long history, some blips of it including bullying, hazing, and even multiple murders. So while you're camping in the park and sitting around the fire, just remember that the ghosts you're talking about in your stories may actually be real. And they're listening.

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