Kim Stafford is a rarity -- a second generation poet laureate. His father, William Stafford, was a famous poet who served in the state role appointed by Oregon's governor for 15 years. Stafford talks about his poetry during the pandemic, why he decided to share his thoughts and work on Instagram and how his view of the world has shifted during the coronavirus era. On the second half of the show, The Oregonian/OregonLive's Brooke Herbert and Beth Nakamura discuss their recent project that paired some of Stafford's poems with their photos and videos.

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