In the show, Freyja mentions links to her recent podcast appearances: Previous episode https://podcasts.apple.com/tw/podcast/嗨你有性趣嗎/id1701954648?i=1000710634609, and Next episode https://podcasts.apple.com/tw/podcast/嗨你有性趣嗎/id1701954648?i=1000711920186
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Transcript
Welcome back, everyone, to the Orgasm Express podcast.
I'm Bill.
I'm Freya.
And yeah, we've had quite a lot happened since the last time we did a podcast.
Freya left me, you know, left me.
Oh, but you know what I mean?
Not in a relationship way, but in a distance way.
And we've had some, you know, just difficulty aligning things up.
Plus we've both been having quite a lot of fun .
So I think the focus of this podcast is going to be on Freya and she's telling her stories of what's been happening to her since she returned home.
And then I think we're planning maybe another one later where the reverse takes place where , you know, I get to share some of my stuff and then we'll hopefully get back into the swing of things of doing these podcasts much more often.
So as forowers of one, I said, let's do this, let's do this now and let's do this today, the floor is yours.
It's like, I miss everyone's a lot.
I think today topics where I'm going to talk about what's going on recently since I'm back to Taiwan and I've been to several events in Taiwan and I want to share the experience here too.
How many months ?
I've been hit back, I think, five, four five months.
Between this, I have have like my candate friends and partners visited Taiwan and we've been quite several events.
After I came back to here, I think last time I share about this is I've been to the speech, to share my experience in Canada.
Like in the school club , the king club.
And that's fun.
It's been lots of people to be there.
And then after that I got the invite by the famous podcast in Taiwan's podcast in Taiwan.
And they just post it in these two weeks.
They have the two episode on joined them to share my experience in Canada.
Wonderful.
Yeah, the podcasting is @sexinterests.
@Sexinterets. And if people can understand Mandarin, they can find it out.
Or maybe some sort of translation thing we can do, that'd be cool.
I might have to see if I could do the same.
I'm interested in hearing what you said there.
That'd be cool.
You can't understand your name.
We said lots and lots and lots and lots.
Yes, I talk a lot of you.
Well, and what we did in the past year.
I organized seven events.
Wow.
That's.
And for a different topic.
And then it's like I've been to quite a few events and the birthday party here.
Yes, it's been so different between your events and in the Canada event, I have been there.
It's like, .
That is.
The vibe is like, you know, they have the Talkings event, like have munch and have the dungeon party.
And here we're like.. Being mixed together more, like people talk and play more and talk more and play laughs.
Oh.
I don't know how to say it is.
Yes, the vibe is so different here.
What do you think is, for you personally, what do you think is better for you?
I'm not saying better as in I'm sure there's no better.
You know, it's just different.
But for you personally, do you like the munch chatty side and then a place where there's much more play?
Or do you like what you have where there's kind of like chat and play or mixed in?
What do you Is it just in the moment how you feel?
I think I'm not. Pickup player.
Yes.
Yes.
So it's being. Quite challenged for me to like play with the people I first meet meet.
So it's being like mixed together events.
I think it's been quite challenging for me to do that.
And I personally like the much more.
But you think like Munch then leads to maybe play later once you've got to know them?
Yeah, I quite like the schedules in Vancouver.
It's like they have the munch at Wednesday and then they have the party at Saturday.
Yeah.
You can schedule that to people.
Yeah, and I think it's really cool.
I had a conversation with somebody recently who was in their early 40s and they were saying that they had to think about how they met people in the king community in the same way they would meet somebody dating. And that was to actually meet them and not just say hi online and check online, but like, hey, are you going to beat a munch or can we meet for a coffee?
And and then take it from there?
And that's much, much better, I think , to do that that as you say, pickup play.
And for those who don't know what that means, that just means meeting somebody and and doing a scene straight straight away.
Yes.
Obviously after negotiation, but you have no energy vibe or knowledge of that person maybe before.
So, yeah, I'm the same way.
I have that same vibe.
But that being said, how do we meet?
Okay.
Beth just.
I think it lasts very lot.
I think so too.
We were both in the right moment and the right headspace because we met pickup play at an event.
So there's no hard and fast rule, I think .
It's the vibe and the energy.
I agree, but I agree with you.
The way you do things in a way I do things is very similar, social, and then meet somebody, connect and then play later.
So has the way events have been happening for you made it difficult for you to meet people or the right people?
Yeah, I think it's because how success we met. The experience we had.
So I'm things like push pushing myself to do that, just like try to meet someone and play it at the event straight away.
They are lovely, yes, but it's been very drop for me after play having a scene.
Yeah.
It feels so tough for me to do that as like you play with people and without any romantic.
I think it's the biggest difference is after we play and we have we feel something and then we like you send me the message and I send you the message and we find someplace to chat, having a coffee.
Yes.
Later.
And it's just like not happens here or just like I didn't get experience here recently is like we play and then nothing.
And that's tough for if anybody who's experiencing in King or BS and play, or just in general with a relationship relationship, imagine meeting somebody and then you have a great time together and you disappear and nobody talks to each other again.
Or they don't for a long period of time, nobody checks in or finds out how you're doing.
And when you're doing a scene, which is very, very, as you mentioned, the drop, like the emotional and the chemical drop that you can get after those things where people don't check in or there's no real afterc.
And I was with a do recently and one of his aftercare was , you have to call me the day after and check in.
Yeah, so I write down a like instruction for people.
Like, you need to check in with me.
Most of event is on Saturday.
So you need to check in on Monday .
Yeah.
Yeah, I give V the instructions, but it still feel dropping because you feel like they just follow the instructions.
Yeah.
You know.
I can see that as well because I think I know where you're coming from because I feel the same way.
We've both spoilt each other for future and other potential relationships and all partners we play with because we connected and vibed really quickly and good chemistry and energy that it kind of, yeah, it's hard then, I'm not saying you're measuring other people against me or I'm measuring other people against you, but at least you're looking for something in the same ballpark, in the same area that meets.
And I think that's where it's very, very difficult.
Yeah, I think... For aftercare, just talking about aftercare, I have like, because the peoples I played is like, some people's like first met and some people's like, I know for quite a while, but I never play with them.
One people's joking is like, oh, you are so experienced, I thought you don't eat after care.
Now, there was a pause there while on camera, Fred can see my chin hitting the floor going, "What the fuck?
Yeah.
Wow, that's crazy.
Like, maybe that shows their inexperience, you know?
But it's good now that you say so, because even though you're telling me to do it, you know, if they don't know, that's, I still think that's a little crazy, mind you.
Wow.
Yes, and the other one is like, they're skilled as good, but it's like after play, he's just like, walk away and I say, stop.
I think we need aftercare.
And he asks me, what's is after care?
Another silence while chin hits floor.
What the.
Yeah.
But they're going to a venture even if they're seeing this sort of stuff and they have a decent skill, so you obviously they know what they're doing, that they don't know.
And this this is huge .
And one of the reasons we're doing this podcast is education as well.
It's not just sharing at.
That's quite upsetting to me that somebody would do that.
Do that anyway, but do that to you as well.
It's double bubble layer.
Double hurt.
Aww, I'm being very frustrated by that.
Like, after play.
It feels like I' sharing my, like, vulnerability to my vulnerable , and people didn't catch it, you know?
Didn't see it.
And like at some place, if they do, because it's quite different here, the event we are like setting for the topic, like, is it expand spanking part?
Event is a tickling event and it's a restrained event.
We have the topic on it.
So people go there and do that topic.
Mm.
It's so different, right?
I actually quite like that in certain cases.
I mean, there's a good thing when you go to a dungeon and you see a variety of things because I've seen things that I didn't even know was out there and then I've seen things that I've seen before, but done differently and you learn from that.
And sometimes you go, hey, that's not for me.
That's fine.
And other times you go, hey, that's really cool.
I want to try that.
But I also like the idea of having just a , as you say, like a tickling event or a, you know, impact player event where that's just that stuff happening.
You know, I think these could work well as well, but I also like the blend. It feeds different parts of me, I'm sure, you.
But you find those individual topic parties are more successful.
For me personally, I feel a little pleasure to do the having the things there or meet people there.
It's because the most of the event is like the least styled in Taiwan, I think.
Like, I pick the topic I like or like the play I like to join the event . And then I find out the people's maybe attending that is like seeking for play not seeking for romantic or relationship for me.
So it's being like, it's being pushed to having played there and it makes myself feels like I'm being that toy, you know, you understand that?
Or tool.
It's like, oh, okay, I've been in the top here, I just banking, giving this banking section It's because maybe I'm just the girls there or I'm in the bottom because I'm the bottom lair.
Yeah, that's hard because it's different when you arrange to do a skillshare and you have been asked as like an expert to come along and do something because then people look at you differently, oh, this person knows what they're doing, but if you're there in play to do stuff, I can understand that, that it's not fulfilling.
You know, you don't get anything back.
I do quite enjoy in a moment, but it feels like there's not what I'm looking for.
It makes sense.
Yeah.
So yeah.
When you mention kind of romance or relationship in in the kid community and in play, is is that dynamic always important to you, even if it's just you have a connection or a chemistry, even .
I don't know.
It's like because we do the Genman section, right?
Yeah.
It worked for me.
I love that.
They don't need romantic, you know.
But it's like..
But did that become more romantic?
And this may sound weird, because it was aranged for you by.
It was arranged for you, by me.
Did that make it different?
Was there a layer of romanticism there?
Because it was me helping you fulf a fantasy.
I think that's part of the reason.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I also think a lot of people do kink as well to maybe get out of their head and get out of their own way.
You know, we all have busy lives and we all have lots of, you know, maybe not very fun things happening .
And to be able to go and just forget, sometimes it's a good thing, but then you have to come back to the real world.
Yes, agree.
So what's been the most fun event that you've organized out of the seven events that you've done so far?
What's your favorite?
I think last week, just like, we do the Waterg event.
Oh.
And the body planting painting.
Oh.
Yeah, so it's fun to play that in summer.
Oh, no doubt.
Yeah.
It's just getting nice and warm here in Canada right now.
So I can just imagine running around naked, getting, shooting water guns and being painted.
That could be quite fun.
So back to the Gangbang topic.
Oh, okay, yes.
Yeah.
It's like.
I'm being so confused because I quite enjoyed that.
And I think bo reason is because you're organized it for me and I really enjoy that .
But for this like topic.
Yeah.
I think so.
I will like that too.
Like, even though it's not with you.
Yeah, so it's not have to be connection or romantic.
No, I't I get that.
Yeah, so I think what's in what you've said earlier, I think one of the most important thing, which is important, anything to do with in life in general , is that communication, right?
And completing the cycle and the communication for both, because we're not just talking about particularly if it's pickup player and you're meeting somebody or you've met them before at a munch and you've known them a little bit, if they, the communication, like you said, oh, your experienced, I didn't think you needed aftercare.
It's like, what the hell?
Everybody needs aftercare.
The top and the book.
Everybody does.
And if the top doesn't recognize any after careare, they need education or maybe they're going home and feeding like garbage or trash the following day and not recognizing why.
You know, it's not really how, you know, you would hope people would learn that really quickly.
I think that's why we're doing this podcast more.
Yeah, I think employ or meet people to having scenes on the event, for me, I need to feel like I'm special.
They want to play it.
It's because me.
It's not because I'm the girl.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
Yes.
And I think in the past 10 years, when I play with peoples, I quite like to act people, why me?
Why do you want to play with me?
Why the reasons you choose me? .
It's like, I need to know on the persons they want to play and they like me and just just not because I'm the girls attending sla event.
Some of that's hard in the moment, you know, it's.
But I understand exactly where you're coming from, that that's and different people want different things and have different reasons.
Because I know for me, I know we met through pickup play, but I'm an energy kind of chemistry person.
And that leads me first, right?
That goes past , you know, what you're wearing, what you look like, everything.
It's like, hey, I'm drawn to the energy.
And that may be a good enough answer for you, or it may not be.
I don't know.
Because if we met again , that wasn't really a question you asked me but I I think because we felt maybe good energy for both of us.
Yeah, but sometimes it's not need the verbal answer, I think.
Yeah.
It's like it confused by the chemistry.
It's like connections for that.
So since you've been back, you, you enjoyed your last event.
You've said you've had troubles meeting, well, not troubles, but, you know, just trying to meet the right people.
Are you talking at more on both levels, just the right people to play with, but also maybe the right people to expand and have more relationship with?
It's too early to talk about maybe into the relationship, I think.
Okay.
Because, you know, it's like in , I think it's four months and I do the seven event, it can tell it's like every two weeks I have the event.
Yeah.
And I've been to, I write it down.
It's like, I've been to two birthday party and two private event and three public event.
So it's been.
I have been one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 14 events.
Wow.
Yeah, I wonder you've had no time for anything else.
Well, I know that that too.
We talk a lot.
And anybody knows that when we speak, I always go, what time of the day is it?
And it's often the middle of the night and it's saying, it's like, it's like Freya has her own time zone .
Yeah, it's our own time zone.
It's a little crazy, but it sounds like a lot of fun.
I say it's my fault too loud.
We cannot find the schedule to do the recording.
And And this is very, very kind of last minute.
Francis said to me, hey, have you got can we do this now?
Yeah, it's beautiful, sunny, you know, evening for me.
I've got no responsibilities this evening.
I said, letet's do it, let's do it.
Yes.
Yes.
It makes I try 14 times to give myself a chance to meet peoples or something.
Yeah, which is which sounds a lot, but isn't really a lot.
You know, if you're looking at it's a lot of putting yourself out there, but as well, the right person also has to turn up at the event at the right time.
It's Yeah.
Yeah.
It just feels like like, okay, because, you know, we're not going to find someone stupid and it's like put a lot of effort on it and it's just like mess everything up.
Yeah.
We both have that mentality of, um, and I don't mean like, like Smart like has a a doctorate or a master's degree or this ever.
But you know, like just smart, smart, knows their stuff, knows themselves, you know, sees the world, you know, and whatever you want to call that street smart or whatever, but at least they have to have, you know, they have to going to know what's going on.
And yeah, I think elers they need to to know what they like and what they're doing.
Yeah.
I agree.
I think, yeah.
At least to begin with, because that's that changes.
I know.
Like I said before about going to events, you'll see new stuff and go, oh, I want to try that.
And, you know, I we're going to talk about some of the stuff I've been doing in another podcast, but some of that in there, I saw stuff that was like, oh, no, not interested at all.
Yeah., maybe.
I'd like to try that. For that is like, um, yeah, I made people's on the event and we have the, like, plate and they send me the message after the play on a Monday and we have fun conversations after a lot.
We text some of them.
And like people will some people, they have their other relationship..
And they didn't cannot place the kink in their vanilla relationship.
Oh.
So it's...
Yeah, and I think there's, it's interesting you say that, that there are many couples, even if they're in open relationships or poly relationships where, where one partner is kind of not kinky and the other one is.
Yes, and they were like text me like, it feels like I want to like gather things out of them.
It's like, they need to play.
They have to do stuff and they need to be top.
I don't know how to say it in English.
I translate that full, like, blow the sting.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, blow off steam.
Yeah.
Blow off steam.
Yeah.
Like, release the valve, release the pressure so you don't explode .
Yeah.
And it feels like, okay, one?
I need to like white me?
And it's like, I feel so they just want to blow it off the sting.
Yeah. And And it's not because they want to play with me.
It's like, if they need to do that, because a marin is not something good. .
It's like, it feels like, okay, you can do the basketball or something else to get a steam out and why you play kinky.
And I feels like I'm just a pillows to do that.
Yeah, and it's difficult, I think.
But if you're in a relationship with somebody and there is a dynamic you have, whatever that may be, and that person is full of tension and they get to say to like, I need to blow off steam with you.
Then the other person goes, well, you want to do it with me?
Ooh, okay, cool.
You know, because it's with you, not.
Yeah, butuz it's not not in the relationship.
Exactly.
And this is where it's difficult where you, as you go back to say, you said you feel like like a toy or a tool, right?
And that's and that's not really, you know, the right thing, I think.
You know, it's it's difficult when you get people who are , I'm not saying not being honest because they may be in a very honest relationship, but it may be open.
They may be sharing their kink with their partner and they have nobody to do anything with.
So I'm not saying this that anybody's's lying or hiding anything .
They might well be, but they're probably, if they're in that situation, they're allowed to go to an event, they're not.
They're not developing that situation, like you were saying, to get to know somebody.
It really is.
I need to go find somebody and live off steam.
And I agree.
I don't think go find another avenue.
I agree.
Go find another way to do that because there's no way in the way I think about it that you layer in that whole idea of respect after that as well because it's, I wouldn't say Oh, yeah.
I wouldn't say it's that respectful.
Unless the person at the other end says, hey, I want you to use me to let off steam.
I I like to just be used .
And if you have that person that's their dynamic, then the let off steam and the person wants to be used, that's a perfect meat.
But they're still off the care.
There's still going to be communication.
There's still going to be all those things that you should have even on pickup plate or with a partner that you play with regularly and know what's going down.
It doesn't matter.
There's still, I wouldn't say rules, but just respect and basic decency that you would have in there too.
Yeah, it's that's difficult when you have that situation.
And you find them that you've had quite a bit of that because of who you are in the community, people think that they can come to you and ask you things or do things?
I think. Might be broader reasons, I think.
Yeah.
Because you're a powerful person in the community.
Oh, not.
I'm humble.
This way, you're allowed to say that.
I'm allowed to say you're powerful.
And you should say, no, not me.
I I'm just, I'm just fra.
I know that's. Wrong.
I know. You're a powerful person and you do lots of great work in the community there.
But I can see then how people then maybe view you as either a leader or a mentor or somebody that can approach, hey, can I do this with you?
Because I know you're open to this .
But can that be very, like drain your energy as well?
It's like make you feel sad or as you said how people are approaching you for the wrong reason.
I think that is opposite.
Really?
Okay.
It's like, I feels like because I'm because I'm an organizer and it's like people's like a little bit afraid of playing with me, I can't I feels that.
Oh, yeah, I can see that too.
Yeah, it's like, I'm too powerful for when I organizing the event.
Yes.
Yeah, I know.
Even if you don't come across as scary, Freya.
What?
No, but you don't, I'm joking.
You know that.
But even if you don't think that.
Because, yeah, I can see, because you're in that high position of being an organizer, I can see lots of people not wanting to come and see you.
Yeah, that's true too.
Yeah, it's a different way of looking at it and it's equal to the other thing where people would think, hey, she's really powerful.
She knows her stuff.
I'm going to ask her because she knows.
So, yeah.
Yeah, and people's like acting like carefully, they're like, worried to make mistake in front of me.
It's just like, I feels like, I'm not a monster, you know?
No.
Come and play.
X. You ask me and I can play.
It's like, so I'm the person's more like to be X for play.
And people's like, too shine to X. So it's like being for me, it's like, okay, I need, if I want to play, I need to X first.
So public service announcement to everybody who wants to play with Freya in Taiwan, go and ask her.
What?
Don't be afraid.
She will not bite unless you ask her to.
Go and ask her public service announcement.
Ask Freya.
I can understand.
Now you said that, I can see that because it's different being a man organizing stuff and a woman organizing stuff, it creates a different energy.
And I'm already kind of like , I wouldn't say expected to be scary, but I already have a different dynamic that I'm working with and being, you know, male presenting, it's a different thing than you , female presenting and organizing.
It's, yeah, so I can see that 100%.
And so don't be afraid to say hello to Freya and ask her.
I'll say it again.
Okay.
Yes, and I think for me, oh, I I'm making a joke is like, it feels like being a button is the appetite, is like being hungry about that feels in being the top, it's like. For me, it's like achievement to like that satification satisfy.
Yeah, to satisfy you, yeah.
It's a different label for me.
So I need to be fulfilled for the bottom side first. To be in the top.
Okay.
So I look at that as somebody who's not a switch, I kind of go, oh, okay.
And I also go back to how the first time we met and I know it's pickup play because the first time we met, it was the opposite.
You end up topping somebody first .
Yeah. With rope and then bottoming with me with impact play.
So it's like, oh, okay.
So, but I understand it.
I can get it.
I'm sure there are people who are maybe completely the other way around.
And mindset is I need this verse and that first an equally valid, you know, whatever, as a phrase, whatever spins your wheels, whatever turns your engine, whatever makes you happy, you know, so .
Okay.
Yes, and then I feels like more safety to be in the top ever event.
But I want to be the part first.
Yeah.
So it's being tough for me to find people to.
I'm being at buttons and met peoples can do that.
At the event, it's quite hard for me.
How do you find do you find that in an event changing?
For me, I can see being top first and then deciding, hey, I'm going to relax and become more my submissive self, my bottom self, and then be a bottom as opposed to being a bottom first and then kind of like channeling all the energy and coming up to being a top and finishing the evening being a top...
I don't make that need to be in one event.
Okay..
Okay.
It's like the general.
Okay.
It's maybe my misunderstanding, but, you know, I could just imagine this like as you flower from being in a bottom and then then doing aop with you and then you become this top and you're kind of like it's all powerful powerful Freyer at the end of the evening, you know, I think that I'd like to see that, actually.
That's it pretty cool.
I think you did see that.
Did I say that when?
In the January, no.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, well, yeah, that's true.
That is true.
Slightly different dynamic, but yes, I did see that.
Yes .
I take that back, yes, you are right.
It's it's that last month was crazy, though.
It was an emotional roller coaster before you mentioned away.
Like, how many feelings did we have and process and how many things we talked about, it was, yeah, it was a little crazy .
Are you taking a rests now for all your events?
Yeah, it's the little summer break.
Lovely.
Lovely.
Yeah, so we have the one private event and then next one is at September.
Wonderful.
And then for all the people listening to this, there might be quite a few episodes in and around after October.
October because somebody might be actually take it to Ry booked, visiting Taiwan.
Oh, surp surprise.
Who?
So we were saying that can't come soon enough.
There's quite a bit of time happening between now and then and Lic happening, but that's going to be an exc exciting time when I come and visit.
So I'm really looking forward to it.
I'm looking forward to that too.
So I know you wanted to talk, you've talked quite a bit about the events you've gone through and what you've done and how you've, you know, organized a lot of events and been to lots of events.
And I remember you saying that before you left, you were running through your calendar and it was making my head spin, like how many, and you knew everything for every week from like like when you got home at the end of January, right through till now.
And then I'm going to have the summer off.
It's like, I'm out of breath.
I'm tired, just hearing about all the things you've done.
No wonder I feel exhausting.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So what do what do you plan to do on your time off?
What's your, what's your, because I'm sure there's going to be like kinky things happening on your little break .
I think it feels like I'm been very pronell right now. Actually.
You're just going to have a vanilla summer?
Is that the plan? , I don't know.
I'm not sure.
Yeah.
I know you well enough.
I probably, that may be the idea, whether it turns out that way.
Because, again, you surround yourself and your friends who are think the same as you, right?
And then I I'm trying to do more of the same for myself, surround myself with people who have the same mindset.
And I'm sure I'm sure there'll be a party or three that will happen over the summer.
Maybe 10.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A quiet vanilla summer.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Just just not all in the calendar., let's just at tonight.
Let's just eat tomorrow.
That's cool.
I think we can scheduleules the different appetoses to talk more detailed about the event I've been.
That's fantastic.
I think, realistically, I know we've struggled to kind of make this happen and now doing it again is got me excited to do it more .
And someone is in the summer break.
And someone's in summer break so they can do it more.
And for me, the sun's come out and they always make me happy for here in Canada.
So I think that there'll be a lot more and I agree that I think there's lots of topics we can discuss sharing our stories, both individual in each country and together.
And we know, thank you again for being so patient.
You know, I think there's lots of, you have been, you know, listening and I think, you know, asking for more episodes and that's fantastic.
Thank you .
But I have won the last question for you.
And then over your time, since you've been back home, and it doesn't have to be, you know, kink related.
It'd be great if it was, but what's been the kind of favorite thing that you've done?
And I know you've talked about some struggles and some , you know, issues in meeting the right people, but, you know, what's been your, what's what's been the best thing?
Food.
That's so cool.
Without a bl of a second.
The food.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
It's true.
You know what?
I ever said.
It's so funny you say that.
So, come on.
You can't say food.
Is a an experience, a dinner, a particular meal?
Let's go off King Top for a little bit.
Let's go a little bit.
Leap it to food for a second.
Let's ask that question.
So what did you, what was the first thing you had to have when you got home?
What was the kind of first thing you had to, I got to have this to make myself feel like I'm at home?
I forgot.
It's just like, I want to eat everything.
Yeah.
Yes.
And it's so convenience to having food and go to a restaurant in the midnight, you know.
Yeah, that was crazy.
Sorry, I remember remember messaging you once and you said, we were a video FaceTiming I says, where are you?
I'm in a restaurant.
But it's I'm having sushi.
But it's like two in the morning.
I went, yes, and yes, and and I was like, and we're going to a friend's after this.
I'm like, what the?
You know, that's, yeah, it's a little crazy, but I loved it.
I love , I love kind of like seeing what you're doing and the kind of kind of living your life from a distance sometimes.
But that's true for me for food as well.
When I go back to the UK, there are certain things, even if they're the most unhealthy things, I have to taste them just to make me feel like I'm at home.
So isn't that funny of all the things that we could have talked about, oh, I got flogged like this or I did this or I had a scene.
And he went, food.
I really say I'm been quite an out.
But that's beautiful because doesn't all of that, like they say food, you know, feed your soul?
And, you know, it's, I think it's wonderful that, you know, it actually came back to like, hey, I really needed this.
I really needed that.
And it's, it's's so nice to hear you say that.
But yeah, now it's got made me thinking about very unhealthy things from the England that I eat that, again, if I have, I almost, I always ordered two of these things and after freaking the first one, I go, why did I order the second one?
I shouldn't have never have done that.
But Yes, that happens.
Always.
So would you like to bring this beautiful episode to a close?
Yes.
So, thank you, Ari. Want to her in this episode.
Fr and I did that she wanted to talk about her events, and we talk quite a lot about her events, which is really, really cool.
Will we be posting the links to the podcast you appeared on with our podcast ?
I think that's the plan.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think that's a good idea, but we should allow everybody to listen to you talking so beautifully in Mandarin about.
In Mandarin.
About your experiences in Canada and in kink .
And it's wonderful that people want to engage you and ask you and invite you to speak because, you know, I know how much value you bring, how beautiful the experience was when you were here in Canada and what you do at home.
So it's lovely that you that other people want to hear you to.
Yeah, I have the another speech next week for how to protect yourself when you're in a different country.
Wow.
And is that just general, like, well-being and safety or is that including kink?
In kink.
Oh. Area.
So cool.
For the sex or everything .
That's really, really cool.
In fact, I've got I've met a couple of people from extra people from Taiwan hearing Canada now and I've been talking about you endlessly, probably boring them crazy.
But things like that I need to share with them too, because some have been been here a long while. Some have been new and your perspective is very, very valuable.
Yeah, so thank you everyone for hearing this episode.
We will be back very soon.
Yes, we won't be as long as we were before.
We promise we're sorry .
We'll be back.
Sorry. Apologize.
Bye-bye from myself and from Freya from another episode of the Orgasm Express and then see you soon.
See you soon.
Bye-bye.
