In which we talk about how you know if you are being differently because you're black or because you actually did something wrong. Oh, and we arrived late to this but we all talk about the begpackers who were getting notorious around Kuala Lumpur, and we called Al Ibrahim in to get his opinion.

Who's Zainab Olamiji? Why did she go from studying medicine to being a business development manager? Are jobs and careers the same thing? Or just how different are they? Did our parents care about their jobs or their careers? You'd have to listen to find out.

Stuff we talked about

01.20 - Moving from Cameroon to Dubai to Malaysia

04.39 - Work culture in Cameroon vs Dubai vs Malaysia

07.00 - Culture shocks and medical certificates (MC)

10.30 - The challenge of spouses getting into the job market in Malaysia

14.25 - Renting a house as an African in Malaysia

17.13 - Needing international vetting to open a bank account

21.30 - Being followed at the mall

26.30 - Some of the weird questions African expats get

31.00 - Being an expat African husband and father in Malaysia

32.32 - Long-winding sentence about family hangouts with other families

36.40 - Have financial plans in mind when moving here

... and more

Stuff that we talked about: 1:45 - She doesn't miss church 2:04 - The point where I'm still not sure if she's Nigerian 2:12 - Introducing Nasara Katuka, from Kaduna State in Nigeria 2:23 - [Facepalm] Ignorance galore 3:50 - She's a Business Developer 4:04 - Background music from all the families playing at Paradigm Mall in Petaling Jaya 5:10 - What's your story? 5:38 - SHe studied Business & Management 5:54 - Company closed and everyone had to "find their own way" 7:55 - Nigerian expats in Malaysia and our reluctance to "go back home" 12:02 - What does she do when she isn't working? 13:53 - Al talks about his video project 14:52 - Nigeria doesn't have an accent 16:11 - Favourite and least favorite things about being in Malaysia. First on the list? Electricity 21:00 - How much traveling do you do? 24:05 - We find out that she models as well! 24:47 - Was in a commercial for Harpic in May 2018 and a music video with DJ Policy's African Woman in July 2018. She also does photoshoots. Check out Sunday Girls on Instagram 28:00 - Advice to other expats in Malaysia. Have a backup plan

We met Usman Garba at his place in February for a one-on-one interview, where he talks about his experiences in Malaysia, turning down two job offers for a chance to work with Google and then losing that opportunity, taking a pre-sales job to get his foot in the door and the "two-second rule". He also shares some of his favorite TV shows and what he does when he isn't doing technical training.