<p>Joel and Todd talk about why black America's leaders are sometimes celebrities. </p>

Joel and Todd talk about why black America's leaders are sometimes celebrities.

<p>Joel and Todd talk about why black America's leaders are sometimes celebrities.&nbsp;</p>

Our Leaders are Sometimes Entertainers...and that's okay!

A podcast providing a safe and open space for black men to engage in meaningful conversations often about topics overlooked in black culture. Together, we explore and discuss a wide range of issues, from mental health to masculinity, with the aim of fostering deeper connections and understanding within our community. Join us for an honest and insightful exploration of what it means to be a therapeutic podcast.

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Our Leaders are Sometimes Entertainers...and that's okay!

Our Leaders are Sometimes Entertainers...and that's okay!