Grounding episode five takes a stab at an age-old question: what is a human’s place within nature? Host Sarah Aronson speaks to two environmental philosophers—Soazig Le Bihan and Christopher J. Preston—about that divide, and tugs at the dissonance that exists when we’re trying to understand our place in the world relative to other creatures. Are we supposed to go forth and conquer, or should we be ashamed of the impact we’ve had on different species?