0:08 - Luke Waldo: The first three seasons of Overloaded explored the forces that overload families from poverty to social isolation, systemic racism to mistrust of our systems. But this season, we're looking at something more invisible, the stories behind those forces. And how stories shape what we believe, how we act, and who we hold responsible.

Join me, Luke Waldo, on Wednesday, February 4th for season 4 of Overloaded: Understanding Neglect, where we're taking apart the stories that define our families, our communities, and our future, and building better ones together.

Through conversations with changemakers like Frameworks Institute’s Jess Moyer…

0:59 – Jess Moyer: What we're talking about is kind of an ambitious endeavor. And what we're seeking to change are things that are really entrenched. 

1:08 – Luke Waldo: Doctors Nadine Burke Harris and Bruce Perry…

1:11 – Dr. Nadine Burke Harris: Do you want me to speak truthfully?

1:13 - Dr. Bruce Perry: People tend to view the world and problems from their frame of reference.

1:18 - Dr. Nadine Burke Harris: The more you just kind of scrape under the surface the easier it is to recognize that those structures are not accidental.

1:28 – Luke Waldo: National Book Award finalist Claudia Rowe…

1:31 - Claudia Rowe: Some of those storylines have not changed all that much, and I am surprised, frankly, that I still encounter them even up to, you know, like last week.

1:42 – Luke Waldo: American Bar Association Center on Children and the Law Director Prudence Beidler Carr…

1:47 - Prudence Beidler Carr:  We've essentially created a mechanism for determining that a child who was living in a home where the parents were found unfit, not because they've abused their child, not because there's an imminent risk of harm, not because that child has experienced a safety issue, but because the parents sought help, were rejected from that help, and now unfit to care for their child, so their child is removed from their care.

2:15 – Luke Waldo: National Lived Experience Leader Valerie Frost…

2:18 – Valerie Frost: You know it’s really humbling to have systems involvement in that way that’s shocking. Because I now know, for the rest of my life, I don’t really have anything. Right now, on this call, CPS could come knock on my door, they could go pick up my kids from school. They could do any day.

2:36 – Luke Waldo: And Anti-Hate Advocate Pardeep Singh Kaleka amongst many others, we explore the question: “What stories shape how we see the world? And how can we tell them differently?

2:49 – Pardeep Singh Kaleka: Maybe we can go past what we say about each other…

2:55 – Luke Waldo: Join us on Wednesday, February 4th when we premiere season 4 wherever you listen to your podcasts.