Oxygen for Educators™

SUMMARY

In this episode, we sit down with the wise and wonderful Dr. Laura Lockhart to talk about something every educator wrestles with—how we show up for ourselves and others when things get hard.

From the way we talk to ourselves, to understanding our triggers, to breathing through stressful moments, Dr. Lockhart brings so much heart and practical wisdom. We explore how self-awareness and self-compassion can shift everything—from how we manage conflict to how we connect with students (and ourselves).

She shares powerful takeaways from her journey and research, like why overusing your strengths can actually burn you out, how delaying your response can improve outcomes, and why relationships are the true heartbeat of education.

If you've ever felt stuck in fight-or-flight or been your own harshest critic (hi, educators 👋), this conversation will breathe life back into your day.

💥 Impactful Takeaways:

• Talk to yourself like you would to a friend—because self-compassion is key to your well-being.

• Breathe to remind your nervous system you're safe—it's a powerful tool we often overlook.

• Know your triggers—you can't manage what you don't understand.

• Overusing your strengths leads to depletion—balance is essential.

• Strong relationships are the nucleus of proactive conflict management—connection comes first.

CHAPTERS

00:00 Self-Talk and Compassion 03:08 Introduction to Dr. Laura Lockhart 06:05 Dr. Lockhart's Educational Journey 09:06 The Importance of Relationships in Education 12:06 Proactive Conflict Management 14:54 Self-Awareness and Well-Being 17:55 Dissertation Insights on Conflict Management 20:47 Understanding Triggers and Hot Buttons 24:12 Constructive vs. Destructive Behaviors 27:11 Practical Tips for Self-Compassion 29:47 Mindfulness Techniques for Educators 47:55 The Power of Breath and Nervous System Regulation 51:03 Understanding Triggers and Responses 52:11 The Importance of Community in Learning 55:30 Navigating Struggles Together 57:02 Strategies for Self-Awareness and Conflict Resolution 01:01:30 The Role of Self-Compassion in Education 01:03:59 Reflections on Strengths and Depletion 01:08:59 The Centrality of Relationships 01:13:55 Delaying Responses and Mindful Interactions

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SUMMARY:

In this conversation, Brent shares his journey from ministry to education philanthropy, offering deep insight into the role of love, community, and collaboration in transforming education. Set against the backdrop of Fort Worth's innovative philanthropic efforts, the discussion explores how addressing both social needs and academic performance is essential for student success.

The episode sheds light on the realities educators face in today's political climate, the emotional toll of social media, and the urgent need for community support and authentic connection in schools. Brent and the hosts highlight the power of high expectations, equity, and pronoia—the belief that the world is conspiring for good—to reshape the narrative in education. Through stories and insights, they call for a collective responsibility to support educators and ensure every child is seen, supported, and given the chance to thrive.

TAKEAWYS:

• "Love is such an essential ingredient in the mix." True educational impact starts with love—for students, for the work, and for one another.

• "We don't have to choose between those." Social needs and academic performance are not competing priorities—they must be addressed together.

• "The world is conspiring for you." In a time of uncertainty, embracing pronoia can help educators and students stay grounded in hope.

• "It's borderline criminalized to even talk about it." Navigating today's political climate requires courage and a commitment to honest conversations about student needs.

• "There's a community out there that values your work." Educators are not alone—when communities come together, lasting change is possible.

CHAPTERS

00:00 The Power of Love in Education 03:54 Brent's Journey into Education Philanthropy 06:51 Understanding the Role of Philanthropy in Education 11:30 Bridging the Gap: Philanthropy and Educators 19:10 Collaborative Approaches in Philanthropy 26:10 The Importance of Academic Performance and Social Needs 32:22 Integrating Love into Education 38:27 Expectations and Bias in Education 39:48 Navigating Expectations and Curiosity 40:45 The Impact of Social Media on Personal Well-being 48:11 Challenges in the Education System 54:18 Focusing on Kids Amidst Political Turmoil

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In this episode, Chris and Michelle introduce the brilliant Dr. Laura Latta, Executive Director of the Tulsa Higher Education Consortium—who Chris has aptly nicknamed "the queen of collaboration."

From there, Michelle and Laura dive into a powerful conversation about leading with empathy in education. Laura shares her belief that education is people work, not a system where you plug in inputs and expect predictable outcomes. It's human, relational, and deeply complex.

They explore how psychological safety creates space for innovation, how communities of practice can break through isolation, and why reclaiming teacher agency is essential. Laura reminds us that educators are icons, innovators, and often the "parent profession"—creating something from nothing every single day.

Highlights from the conversation include: ✨ "It just takes one friend." ✨ "Teaching is the parent profession." ✨ "You can reclaim agency in your work." ✨ "Education is people work."

Chris and Michelle return at the end to unpack the conversation and reflect on the heart of Laura's message. This episode is a meaningful reminder of the emotional depth, creativity, and community that fuel the work of educators every day.

CHAPTERS

00:00 Creating Spaces for Recognition

03:37 Introducing Dr. Laura Lata

04:30 Laura's Journey in Education

08:14 Balancing Perspectives in Education

11:34 Communities of Practice in Higher Education

13:23 Real-World Examples of Collaboration

19:28 Navigating Bureaucracy and Tradition

28:21 Addressing Educator Exhaustion

34:09 Fostering Psychological Safety for Innovation

43:11 Facilitating Authentic Conversations

47:10 Reclaiming Educator Agency

54:20 The Heart of Education: Connection and Community

57:52 Celebrating the Role of Educators

01:00:23 Reflections on the Conversation

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SUMMARY

"When You Love the Student First"

For the first time on Oxygen for Educators, the guest was nominated by students—and not just any students! Will and Max, the nephews of our host Chris Kent Phelps, wanted to honor someone who has left a lasting mark on their lives: their beloved 4th grade teacher, Mrs. Lopez from Linda Lyon Elementary in Rockwall ISD.

This episode is a heartfelt tribute to the kind of teaching that transforms lives. Will and Max share what has made Mrs. Lopez unforgettable—the way she leads with love, sees each student as a whole person, and creates a classroom filled with joy, humor, and meaningful connection.

Mrs. Lopez opens up about her relationship-centered approach, how she creates emotionally safe learning environments, and the importance of mentoring future educators. The conversation also touches on the emotional weight teachers carry, the role of self-care, and how authentic connection can reshape the classroom experience for everyone.

If you've ever had a teacher who made you feel seen—or you're striving to be that teacher—this episode will speak straight to you.

Know a teacher who deserves to be recognized on the show? We'd love to hear about them! Email Katie at [email protected].

TAKEAWAYS

• Kids value teachers who help them reset and calm down.
• Love first, teach second.
• Children are allowed to struggle too, teachers should create a safe space for mistakes.
• Emotional support is crucial for student learning.
• Teachers can impact students' confidence and self-worth.
• Emotional connections in teaching can transform student attitudes.
• Self-care is essential for educators to maintain their well-being.
• Love in education is foundational for effective teaching.
• Students often come to school seeking love and support.

CHAPTERS

00:00 Introduction to the Podcast and Guests 03:00 The Impact of Mrs. Lopez on Students 12:02 Mrs. Lopez's Teaching Philosophy and Background 20:00 Building Relationships with Students 29:58 The Importance of Emotional Connection in Teaching 35:02 Transformative Changes in Students 36:44 Innovative Classroom Structures 39:27 Building Trust and Relationships 42:31 Creating a Safe Learning Environment 46:05 The Importance of Self-Care for Educators 49:20 The Impact of Love in Education 50:36 Finding Balance in Teaching 52:22 The Fragility of Students 55:18 The Power of Reflection 57:15 Celebrating Student Achievements

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SUMMARY

This episode is extra special—our producer, Katie Worden, had the privilege of working under the incredible leadership of Dr. Maricela Helm at Amy Parks Elementary in Rockwall ISD. As Katie's principal, Maricela left a lasting impression, showing her that when we focus on the well-being of each child, academic success will naturally follow.

In this episode, host Michelle Kinder sits down with Maricela for a heartfelt and thought-provoking conversation about what it truly means to be an educator today. They talk about the power of being present, building authentic relationships with students, and cultivating a love for learning. Maricela shares her insight on how shifting our mindset, practicing daily self-care, and establishing community agreements can transform not just classrooms—but entire school cultures.

After the interview, Michelle is joined by Chris Kent Phelps to reflect on the conversation. Together, they unpack the moments that stood out most, diving deeper into themes like vulnerability, empowerment, and what it means to raise up students as not only future change makers, but ripplemakers today.

This episode is a reminder of how impactful educators can be—and how putting connection at the center of our work can shape lives in lasting, meaningful ways.

TAKEAWAYS

• We need to focus on who students are right now, not just their future potential.
• It's important for kids to see us struggle, we are all learners all the time.
• Discipline should be viewed as an opportunity for relationship building, not punishment.
• Community agreements help establish a respectful and supportive environment and foster trust and communication.
• Empowering students to impact their present can lead to a more engaged and responsible future generation.
• Vulnerability in teaching can help students relate better to their teachers.
• Education should prioritize relationships over mere academic achievement.
• Empowering students to see themselves as change makers is vital.

CHAPTERS

00:00 – The Present Self: Embracing Who You Are Now 02:40 – Understanding the Role of Educators 04:03 – The Journey to Education: Personal Stories 06:11 – Creating a Love for Learning 10:27 – Mindset Shifts in Education 15:28 – Transforming Discipline into Relationship Building 19:17 – The Power of Circles in Education 22:05 – Building Community Agreements 26:12 – Addressing Systemic Issues in Education 30:06 – The Evolving Role of Educators 35:19 – Empowering Students to Impact the Present 45:26 – The Importance of Daily Self-Care for Educators 48:36 – Celebrating Teachers and Their Impact 51:07 – The Heart of Teaching: Stories That Inspire 52:14 – Building Relationships in Education 53:43 – The Power of Perspective 58:25 – Mindset as Self-Care 01:01:21 – Embracing Vulnerability in Education 01:04:12 – Community Agreements: Building Trust 01:07:20 – Transforming Education Through Relationships 01:10:17 – Empowering Students as Change Makers 01:11:11 – The Importance of Circles in Education

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SUMMARY

This episode is a special one. Michelle Kinder sits down with Dr. Jeannie Stone, a former superintendent and fierce advocate for equity in education, for a deeply honest and inspiring conversation. Hosts Michelle Kinder and Chris Kent Phelps set the stage, sharing why this episode—and Jeannie herself—means so much.

Jeannie shows up with warmth, transparency, and wisdom as she reflects on her experience in public education. From navigating the complexities of leadership to standing firm in her commitment to equity, she opens up about what it really means to lead with heart. She shares how she built a culture rooted in what she calls "the teacher's eyes," and how she used data, deep listening, and high expectations to close achievement gaps and truly see every student.

Michelle and Jeannie dive into both the challenges and the joys of the work—what it takes to create transformative change, the value of mentorship, and how to foster real, necessary conversations about race and equity in schools.

After the interview, Chris and Michelle return to unpack the conversation and reflect on its powerful takeaways—making space to celebrate the educators doing the hard, beautiful work of showing up for kids every single day.

TAKEAWAYS

• Every child deserves to be seen and supported in their educational journey.

• Open conversations about race and equity are necessary for progress.

• Mentorship plays a crucial role in shaping educators' careers.

• Every educator has the power to create change within their locus of control.

• Listening to students' stories is a sacred responsibility for educators.

• Transformative changes can lead to significant improvements in student outcomes.

CHAPTERS

00:00 – The Impact of Mentorship in Education 03:02 – A Journey Through Education: From Teacher to Superintendent 05:52 – The Teacher's Eyes: A Leadership Philosophy 12:12 – Equity in Education: A Personal Commitment 18:14 – Facing Challenges: The Reality of Racial Equity 23:48 – Transformative Changes: Implementing the ACE Model 29:57 – Navigating Controversy: The Cost of Advocacy 36:13 – Looking Ahead: The Future of Equity in Education 45:09 – The Responsibility of Educators 48:41 – Current Role and Impact in Education 51:21 – Reflections on Leadership and Legacy 54:49 – The Importance of Listening and Seeing Students 56:52 – The Journey of Writing and Healing 01:00:05 – Belief in the Power of Education 01:02:19 – A Love Letter to Educators 01:03:13 – Reflections on the Conversation

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SUMMARY

In this rich and layered episode, Michelle Kinder and Chris Kent Phelps kick things off with a heartfelt introduction before handing the mic to Robert and Michelle for a deep, honest conversation about what it truly takes to support students—and the adults who serve them. They explore the power of representation, the importance of relationships, and the role adult behavior plays in shaping student outcomes.

From there, Chris and Michelle come back to unpack the conversation, highlighting the threads of emotional resilience, high expectations, and the need for educators to care for themselves as they care for others. Together, they reflect on how leadership, clarity, and capacity-building can help schools become places where everyone—students and adults alike—can thrive.

TAKEAWAYS

• Adult behavior significantly impacts student outcomes. How we show up—our presence, our tone, our consistency—shapes every student's experience.

• Transformative relationships drive change in education. Real, lasting change doesn't start with programs—it starts with people. Connection is the catalyst.

• Representation in leadership roles is essential for equitable decision-making. Who sits at the table matters. Students need to see themselves reflected in those who lead them.

• Creating a supportive environment is vital for educator well-being. Educators can't pour into others when they're empty. Support isn't a bonus—it's a necessity.

• Self-examination helps in understanding emotional responses. The inner work matters. Awareness of our own reactions is essential to leading with clarity and compassion.

CHAPTERS

00:00 – Reversing the Narrative on Education 04:09 – Meet Robert Selders Jr.: A Journey of Transformation 10:00 – The Importance of Representation in Education 13:48 – Empowering Students from Challenging Backgrounds 20:00 – The Role of Adult Behavior in Student Success 25:07 – Fortifying Education Systems Against Challenges 30:10 – Creating Conditions for Adult Thriving 38:50 – Self-Care and Resilience in Education 44:58 – The Lasting Impact of Educators 48:20 – Navigating Relationships and Expectations in Education 49:46 – The Importance of High Standards 52:11 – Embracing Challenges and Personal Growth 54:07 – Dealing with Fear and Emotional Resilience 58:24 – The Power of Reflection and Self-Examination 01:00:20 – Building Capacity and Mastery in Education 01:01:24 – The Role of Leadership in Supporting Educators 01:03:00 – Transformative Relationships in Education 01:10:20 – Anticipating Adversity and Fortifying Systems 01:15:51 – Creating a Supportive Environment for Educators

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SUMMARY

In this episode, Michelle Kinder sits down with Dr. John Gasko for a raw and powerful conversation about what it really takes to show up well in education. John doesn't sugarcoat the reality — he talks honestly about the toll the work can take and why educator well-being isn't just important, it's essential. Together, they explore what happens when schools embrace healing, reflection, and connection — not just for students, but for the adults leading them.

After the interview, Michelle and Chris Kent Phelps unpack the conversation and reflect on the big takeaways — from the idea of "holding tension with a still point inside you" to what it means to lead with humanity in systems that often forget the human. This episode is about purpose, pain, and what it means to stay open and grounded in a profession that asks for everything.

TAKEAWAYS

• There is no such thing as getting to "great" when the adults in the system are weighed down by emotional and psychological suffering
• If you want to work in education, you have to be willing to step into the darkness — because that's where the real work is
• Educators must anticipate adversity — and learn how to carry it with strength and steadiness
• We've shaped a generation of writers who need to be reflective, but we've trained them to operate inside a box
• Educators play a vital role as healers within their school communities
• Real hope begins with a clear-eyed understanding of the challenges we face

CHAPTERS

00:00 The Importance of Acknowledging Reality in Education 04:07 Introducing Dr. John Gasco: A Journey of Well-Being 09:57 The Impact of Educator Well-Being on Student Success 16:05 Creating a New Paradigm in Teacher Education 22:04 Transforming School Culture and Educator Support 29:54 Innovative Approaches to Well-Being in Education 40:07 Personal Steps Towards Prioritizing Well-Being 44:03 Building Relationships and Community in Education 45:32 The Triangle of Purpose: Healing, Joy, and Community 48:44 Facing the Meta Crisis: Hope and Challenges for Educators 52:38 Rethinking Education: Skills for a Changing World 56:21 Creating Conditions for Hope and Growth 01:00:14 The Power of Personal Development in Education 01:01:56 Anticipating Adversity: Becoming a Counterforce 01:07:14 The Importance of Self-Care and Reflection 01:11:01 The Healing Power of Educators 01:18:36 Finding Purpose and Hope in Education

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SUMMARY

In this conversation, Michelle Kinder sits down with Katherine Kennedy to unpack the real challenges educators face—burnout, secondary trauma, and the emotional weight they carry in and out of the classroom. They talk about how personal experiences shape professional lives, and why supporting educator wellness isn't optional—it's urgent.

Katherine shares her journey and what pushed her to create wellness programs designed specifically for educators. She digs into the role of creativity, community, and somatic practices in healing, and why reconnecting with yourself is often the first step toward meaningful change.

This dialogue pushes beyond surface-level solutions, exploring what real support looks like in a system that often overlooks the humanity of the people in it. It's about agency, advocacy, and building spaces where educators—and students—can actually thrive.

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TAKEAWAYS

• Burnout isn't just exhaustion—it's a signal that something has to change.

• Personal trauma doesn't stay at the door—it walks into the classroom too.

• Wellness isn't fluff—it's foundational.

• Creativity and connection aren't extras—they're lifelines.

• Empowerment is the antidote to feeling stuck.

CHAPTERS

00:00 The Burden of Educator Responsibilities 02:50 Katherine Kennedy's Journey to Educator Wellness 06:01 The Impact of Personal Trauma on Professional Life 08:52 The Importance of Educator Wellness 12:04 The Shift to Consulting and Wellness Programs 15:12 The Role of Language in Educator Experience 18:03 Current Challenges and Hopes for Educators 20:52 Empowering Educators Through Creativity 24:08 Finding Support and Community 27:00 The Need for Change in Educational Systems 30:05 Healing Through Somatic Practices 32:56 Befriending the Parts of Ourselves 42:55 Healing Through Alternative Practices 44:44 Seven Small Changes for Mental Health 46:43 The Importance of Agency and Advocacy 49:36 The Power of Connection in Education 51:54 Creating Safe Spaces for Students 53:14 Understanding Stress and the Body 58:09 Creativity, Connection, and Empowerment 01:00:24 The Impact of the Pandemic on Educators 01:02:52 The Role of Educators in Student Well-being 01:07:03 The Influence of Mr. Weaver 01:10:22 The Role of Play in Learning 01:12:49 Learning and Contributing as Vital Metrics 01:17:00 The Emotional Toll on Educators 01:20:25 Empowerment and Agency as Healing Forces

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SUMMARY:

In this uninterrupted episode, hosts Michelle Kinder and Chris Kent Phelps present part 2 of their interview with Alex Vesely-Frankl, Viktor Frankl's grandson. They explore the impact of meaning in education, mental health, and personal responsibility. Alex shares insights from his grandfather's teachings, emphasizing the importance of focusing on one's role and impact on others. The discussion covers the complexity of human nature, burnout in education, and logotherapy's role in addressing despair and suicide. The conversation highlights integrity, family influence, and the transformative power of relationships in healing and finding purpose.

LINKS:

• Man Search For Meaning: https://a.co/d/iS2XrjX
• Logotherapy-online.com
• Logotherapy Institute of America Courses: https://courses.viktorfranklamerica.com/

KEY TAKEAWAYS:

• The shift from self-centered thinking to a focus on others can create profound meaning.
• Human beings are multidimensional, encompassing more than just body and mind.
• Meaning can stabilize mental health and prevent despair.
• Logotherapy emphasizes the importance of finding meaning in suffering.
• Educators play a crucial role in helping students discover their own meaning.

CHAPTERS:

00:00 The Shift from Self to Others 02:15 Understanding Human Multidimensionality 09:10 The Role of Meaning in Education 24:45 Addressing Despair and Suicide Rates 38:23 Logotherapy and Its Relevance Today 46:40 Legacy of Integrity and Truth 50:58 Victor Frankl's Wisdom and Personal Insights 54:58 Understanding Noetic Essence and Personal Growth 01:02:32 Navigating Meaning and Overwhelm in Life 01:10:23 The Duality of Suffering and Love 01:17:54 Youth Suicide Prevention and Meaning-Centered Living 01:25:20 The Impact of Meaning Orientation on Life Choices

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