The Packers lose again to the favorite Buffalo Bills. It may not have been a complete blood bath, yet a L is an L and the Packers move down the ranks to 3 and 5, into a strange and scary space most commonly occupied by the likes of the Bears and Lions. Are there any nuggets of hope or silver linings, especially without a peep at the trade deadline? Chris and Dave will let you know in this week's Packers Therapy.

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Posting its first show in 2005, Packers Therapy is the longest-running Packers podcast on the Internet. Hosts Chris and Dave began the show as a way of capturing the spirited chats the two co-workers had about the team around the office. The two have no pretense about being experts: they are just two opinionated shareholders who love the team, follow it closely, but don’t always see the Packers fortunes eye to eye.

The guys encourage comments and questions via their Twitter feed @PackersTherapy or email to [email protected] and read and respond to as many as they can during each show.