In this wild episode, we’re not lion when we say the Packers were absolutely clawed apart in a 34-20 mauling by the Detroit Lions. We pounce on the soft underbelly of the Packers' defense, which proved to be as intimidating as a sleeping cub. The offensive line? More like the defensive prey, easily hunted and conquered. We’re not kitten around as we roar with both laughter and frustration at Matt LaFleur’s kittenish approach and Joe Barry’s seemingly catatonic strategies. Amidst the jungle of critiques, the enchanting tunes of Meg 2 and Taylor Swift prowl in, their melodies a brief escape from the savannah of defeat. Join us as we lick our wounds and sharpen our claws. It’s a jungle out there...

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Posting its first show in 2005, Packers Therapy is the longest-running Packers podcast on the Internet. Hosts Chris and Dave began the show as a way of capturing the spirited chats the two co-workers had about the team around the office. The two have no pretense about being experts: they are just two opinionated shareholders who love the team, follow it closely, but don’t always see the Packers fortunes eye to eye.

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