This week, Michael and Megan grapple with the problem of pain.

It’s a complex issue for Christians - some seek out pain as a spiritual discipline, while for others, pain can drive them away from faith altogether.

Professor Philip Siddall joins the show to help us further understand why pain occurs - and how to deal with it, both physically and spiritually.

Finally, our hosts cast a critical eye over the second season of the hit TV series Severance.

Out now, wherever you get your podcasts.

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