Italian journalist Marianna Baroli joins me to discuss K-pop, fan culture, parasocial love, and how Korean music is reshaping global identity, especially in Italy. But at what cost? And where do we go next?

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Panorama: https://www.panorama.it/author/mariannabaroli

Discussion Outline

0:00 Introductions

4:55 Fan girling 2PM

7:35 Why K-pop Beat the West?

9:25 The Current State of K-pop

14:20 GOT7

17:50 Girl Groups

20:25 Italian Reactions to K-pop

25:00 Airbnb and SEVENTEEN

28:35 Toxicity in K-pop Online

32:00 Parasocial Relationships

36:00 Objectivity in Music Reviews

40:00 The Producers of K-pop

43:30 Jay Park

45:40 DPR IAN

48:22 How Big Is Hallyu in Italy?

53:46 K-Beauty 57:00 Being in Korea

1:01:40 Italian and Korean Culture

1:04:10 Where Is the Modern World Going?

1:14:40 Recommendations

David A. Tizzard has a PhD in Korean Studies and lectures at Seoul Women's University and Hanyang University. He writes a weekly column in the Korea Times, is a social-cultural commentator, and a musician who has lived in Korea for nearly two decades. He can be reached at [email protected].

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