We talk about books to read that help kids understand about the arrival of younger siblings, along with a brief chat about The War (When Karen locked Derek out of the house after a late night at work)

We are actually talking books books and more books for kids in this episode....we do get sidetracked into Highlander though

We talk about how different the sleeping experiences were between kid one and kid two, segway onto a totally random topic, then bring it back. 

Derek is joined by his friend Javier, a new solider in the war on sleep deprived adults (aka parenting). 

We are joined by Karen's dear old daddy Leo to talk about the differences in being a dad back in the day and now. Sadly it wound up being Derek and Leo tag team insulting Karen.

Derek is joined by his mum this week. One not to miss!

Karen talks with her friend Aoife about all things parenting. They also discuss the topic of stillbirths. If anything discussed in this episode effects you, know that there are a mixture of resources available, we've linked a few below.

https://feileacain.ie/
https://alittlelifetime.ie/
https://www.hse.ie/eng/health/az/s/stillbirth/

We discuss Father's Day and touch on the mad topics about Jane Bond

We talk about why it is important to have hobbies, using hobbies to teach kids that they can't always have their way - plus Derek brings up a painful story from the early days (Karen still hasn't gotten over it yet). 

Karen is joined by her mummy