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In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli speaks with Ann Hiatt, Leadership Strategist & Consultant and Author of the book Bet on Yourself. Ann Hiatt shared the many lessons she learned while working alongside the world's top tech CEOs—Google's Eric Schmidt, Amazon's Jeff Bezos, Yahoo's Marissa Meyer. In addition to the story of her reinvention, Ann Hiatt shared common practices and approaches of these and other top-performing leaders.
Some highlights:
- Ann Hiatt on how she ended up working at Amazon and supporting Jeff Bezos
- How Ann Hiatt handled the crisis when the helicopter she booked for Jeff Bezos ended up crashing
- The leadership models, habits, thought processes Ann Hiatt learned from working closely with Jezz Bezos and Eric Schmidt
- Ann Hiatt on how to hire people who are value-aligned and a good culture fit for your company
- Why you should and how you can Bet on Yourself.
Also mentioned in this episode:
-Jeff Bezos, Founder and Executive Chairman of Amazon
-Eric Schmidt, former CEO of Google
-Andy Jassy, President and CEO of Amazon
-John Doerr, Venture Capitalist at Kleiner Perkins, an early investor in companies including Amazon & Google, and OKR advocate
Book Recommendations:
Bet on Yourself by Ann Hiatt
Measure What Matters by John Doerr
Connect with Ann Hiatt:
Bet on Yourself Website
Ann Hiatt on LinkedIn
Ann Hiatt on Twitter
Ann Hiatt on Instagram
Ann Hiatt on Facebook
Connect with Mahan Tavakoli:
Mahan Tavakoli Website
Mahan Tavakoli on LinkedIn
Partnering Leadership Website
In this episode of Partnering Leadership, Mahan Tavakoli speaks with Justin Evans, a seasoned executive and author of The Little Book of Data. With a career spanning leadership roles at major media and tech firms including Microsoft, NBCUniversal, and Paramount, Evans brings a rare combination of commercial acumen and data fluency to the conversation. His insights offer a refreshing—and deeply practical—framework for how senior leaders should think about data, not as a technical layer, but as a strategic lens.
Far too often, CEOs and boards delegate “data” to specialists, only to find themselves disconnected from the systems shaping growth, innovation, and increasingly, AI-driven decision-making. Evans challenges that mindset. He argues that data is now a core leadership discipline—and avoiding it is no longer an option. But here’s the twist: embracing data doesn’t require becoming a data scientist. It requires leading with the right posture, questions, and level of clarity.
Throughout the conversation, Evans offers real-world stories, from nonprofits reducing senior loneliness using conversational analytics, to multinationals unlocking hidden growth by surfacing unused operational data. What sets his thinking apart is not just the depth of his data expertise, but how convincingly he ties it back to purpose, impact, and leadership judgment.
This is not a technical conversation. It’s a strategic one. And for leaders wondering how to navigate a world increasingly shaped by algorithms, dashboards, and machine learning, this episode is both a wake-up call and a guidepost. If you’ve ever felt a step behind in the data conversation—or feared being sidelined in the age of AI—this dialogue will help you reframe and reengage with confidence.
Actionable Takeaways:
Connect with Justin Evans
Justin Evans LinkedIn
The Little Book of Data: Understanding the Powerful Analytics that Fuel AI, Make or Break Careers, and Could Just End Up Saving the World
Connect with Mahan Tavakoli:
Mahan Tavakoli Website
Mahan Tavakoli on LinkedIn
Partnering Leadership Website
Welcome to the Best Of series on Partnering Leadership.
While many of us take a bit of a breather in July and August, we’re revisiting standout episodes—conversations that are worth hearing again, especially as leadership challenges shift and new moments call for fresh thinking.
I’ve also pulled together 12 of the leadership books I recommend most often—each linked below to my conversation with the author.
Whether it’s your first listen or a return visit, the best conversations have a way of revealing something new when the moment calls for it.
We’ll be back in September with more great conversations and powerful ideas.
Thanks for continuing to learn, grow, and lead in ways that make a real difference.
—Mahan
Trust & Inspire – Stephen M. R. Covey
CEO Excellence – Carolyn Dewar, Scott Keller & Vik Malhotra
Simple Truths of Leadership – Ken Blanchard & Randy Conley
Leading Change – John Kotter
How to Lead – David Rubenstein
Prediction Machines – Ajay Agrawal, Avi Goldfarb & Joshua Gans
The Performance Paradox – Eduardo Briceño
How Minds Change – David McRaney
Human + Machine – Paul Daugherty & H. James Wilson
10 Stories Great Leaders Tell – Paul Smith
Turn the Ship Around! – L. David Marquet
Magic Words – Jonah Berger
"I would rather read the best 100 books over and over again until I absorb them rather than read all the books." Naval Ravikant
Connect with Mahan Tavakoli:
Mahan Tavakoli Website
Mahan Tavakoli on LinkedIn
Partnering Leadership Website
Welcome to the Best Of series on Partnering Leadership.
While many of us take a bit of a breather in July and August, we’re revisiting standout episodes—conversations that are worth hearing again, especially as leadership challenges shift and new moments call for fresh thinking.
I’ve also pulled together 12 of the leadership books I recommend most often—each linked below to my conversation with the author.
Whether it’s your first listen or a return visit, the best conversations have a way of revealing something new when the moment calls for it.
We’ll be back in September with more great conversations and powerful ideas.
Thanks for continuing to learn, grow, and lead in ways that make a real difference.
—Mahan
Trust & Inspire – Stephen M. R. Covey
CEO Excellence – Carolyn Dewar, Scott Keller & Vik Malhotra
Simple Truths of Leadership – Ken Blanchard & Randy Conley
Leading Change – John Kotter
How to Lead – David Rubenstein
Prediction Machines – Ajay Agrawal, Avi Goldfarb & Joshua Gans
The Performance Paradox – Eduardo Briceño
How Minds Change – David McRaney
Human + Machine – Paul Daugherty & H. James Wilson
10 Stories Great Leaders Tell – Paul Smith
Turn the Ship Around! – L. David Marquet
Magic Words – Jonah Berger
"I would rather read the best 100 books over and over again until I absorb them rather than read all the books." Naval Ravikant
Connect with Mahan Tavakoli:
Mahan Tavakoli Website
Mahan Tavakoli on LinkedIn
Partnering Leadership Website
Welcome to the Best Of series on Partnering Leadership.
While many of us take a bit of a breather in July and August, we’re revisiting standout episodes—conversations that are worth hearing again, especially as leadership challenges shift and new moments call for fresh thinking.
I’ve also pulled together 12 of the leadership books I recommend most often—each linked below to my conversation with the author.
Whether it’s your first listen or a return visit, the best conversations have a way of revealing something new when the moment calls for it.
We’ll be back in September with more great conversations and powerful ideas.
Thanks for continuing to learn, grow, and lead in ways that make a real difference.
—Mahan
Trust & Inspire – Stephen M. R. Covey
CEO Excellence – Carolyn Dewar, Scott Keller & Vik Malhotra
Simple Truths of Leadership – Ken Blanchard & Randy Conley
Leading Change – John Kotter
How to Lead – David Rubenstein
Prediction Machines – Ajay Agrawal, Avi Goldfarb & Joshua Gans
The Performance Paradox – Eduardo Briceño
How Minds Change – David McRaney
Human + Machine – Paul Daugherty & H. James Wilson
10 Stories Great Leaders Tell – Paul Smith
Turn the Ship Around! – L. David Marquet
Magic Words – Jonah Berger
"I would rather read the best 100 books over and over again until I absorb them rather than read all the books." Naval Ravikant
Connect with Mahan Tavakoli:
Mahan Tavakoli Website
Mahan Tavakoli on LinkedIn
Partnering Leadership Website
Welcome to the Best Of series on Partnering Leadership.
While many of us take a bit of a breather in July and August, we’re revisiting standout episodes—conversations that are worth hearing again, especially as leadership challenges shift and new moments call for fresh thinking.
I’ve also pulled together 12 of the leadership books I recommend most often—each linked below to my conversation with the author.
Whether it’s your first listen or a return visit, the best conversations have a way of revealing something new when the moment calls for it.
We’ll be back in September with more great conversations and powerful ideas.
Thanks for continuing to learn, grow, and lead in ways that make a real difference.
—Mahan
Trust & Inspire – Stephen M. R. Covey
CEO Excellence – Carolyn Dewar, Scott Keller & Vik Malhotra
Simple Truths of Leadership – Ken Blanchard & Randy Conley
Leading Change – John Kotter
How to Lead – David Rubenstein
Prediction Machines – Ajay Agrawal, Avi Goldfarb & Joshua Gans
The Performance Paradox – Eduardo Briceño
How Minds Change – David McRaney
Human + Machine – Paul Daugherty & H. James Wilson
10 Stories Great Leaders Tell – Paul Smith
Turn the Ship Around! – L. David Marquet
Magic Words – Jonah Berger
"I would rather read the best 100 books over and over again until I absorb them rather than read all the books." Naval Ravikant
Connect with Mahan Tavakoli:
Mahan Tavakoli Website
Mahan Tavakoli on LinkedIn
Partnering Leadership Website
Welcome to the Best Of series on Partnering Leadership.
While many of us take a bit of a breather in July and August, we’re revisiting standout episodes—conversations that are worth hearing again, especially as leadership challenges shift and new moments call for fresh thinking.
I’ve also pulled together 12 of the leadership books I recommend most often—each linked below to my conversation with the author.
Whether it’s your first listen or a return visit, the best conversations have a way of revealing something new when the moment calls for it.
We’ll be back in September with more great conversations and powerful ideas.
Thanks for continuing to learn, grow, and lead in ways that make a real difference.
—Mahan
Trust & Inspire – Stephen M. R. Covey
CEO Excellence – Carolyn Dewar, Scott Keller & Vik Malhotra
Simple Truths of Leadership – Ken Blanchard & Randy Conley
Leading Change – John Kotter
How to Lead – David Rubenstein
Prediction Machines – Ajay Agrawal, Avi Goldfarb & Joshua Gans
The Performance Paradox – Eduardo Briceño
How Minds Change – David McRaney
Human + Machine – Paul Daugherty & H. James Wilson
10 Stories Great Leaders Tell – Paul Smith
Turn the Ship Around! – L. David Marquet
Magic Words – Jonah Berger
"I would rather read the best 100 books over and over again until I absorb them rather than read all the books." Naval Ravikant
Connect with Mahan Tavakoli:
Mahan Tavakoli Website
Mahan Tavakoli on LinkedIn
Partnering Leadership Website
Welcome to the Best Of series on Partnering Leadership.
While many of us take a bit of a breather in July and August, we’re revisiting standout episodes—conversations that are worth hearing again, especially as leadership challenges shift and new moments call for fresh thinking.
I’ve also pulled together 12 of the leadership books I recommend most often—each linked below to my conversation with the author.
Whether it’s your first listen or a return visit, the best conversations have a way of revealing something new when the moment calls for it.
We’ll be back in September with more great conversations and powerful ideas.
Thanks for continuing to learn, grow, and lead in ways that make a real difference.
—Mahan
Trust & Inspire – Stephen M. R. Covey
CEO Excellence – Carolyn Dewar, Scott Keller & Vik Malhotra
Simple Truths of Leadership – Ken Blanchard & Randy Conley
Leading Change – John Kotter
How to Lead – David Rubenstein
Prediction Machines – Ajay Agrawal, Avi Goldfarb & Joshua Gans
The Performance Paradox – Eduardo Briceño
How Minds Change – David McRaney
Human + Machine – Paul Daugherty & H. James Wilson
10 Stories Great Leaders Tell – Paul Smith
Turn the Ship Around! – L. David Marquet
Magic Words – Jonah Berger
"I would rather read the best 100 books over and over again until I absorb them rather than read all the books." Naval Ravikant
Connect with Mahan Tavakoli:
Mahan Tavakoli Website
Mahan Tavakoli on LinkedIn
Partnering Leadership Website
Welcome to the Best Of series on Partnering Leadership.
While many of us take a bit of a breather in July and August, we’re revisiting standout episodes—conversations that are worth hearing again, especially as leadership challenges shift and new moments call for fresh thinking.
I’ve also pulled together 12 of the leadership books I recommend most often—each linked below to my conversation with the author.
Whether it’s your first listen or a return visit, the best conversations have a way of revealing something new when the moment calls for it.
We’ll be back in September with more great conversations and powerful ideas.
Thanks for continuing to learn, grow, and lead in ways that make a real difference.
—Mahan
Trust & Inspire – Stephen M. R. Covey
CEO Excellence – Carolyn Dewar, Scott Keller & Vik Malhotra
Simple Truths of Leadership – Ken Blanchard & Randy Conley
Leading Change – John Kotter
How to Lead – David Rubenstein
Prediction Machines – Ajay Agrawal, Avi Goldfarb & Joshua Gans
The Performance Paradox – Eduardo Briceño
How Minds Change – David McRaney
Human + Machine – Paul Daugherty & H. James Wilson
10 Stories Great Leaders Tell – Paul Smith
Turn the Ship Around! – L. David Marquet
Magic Words – Jonah Berger
"I would rather read the best 100 books over and over again until I absorb them rather than read all the books." Naval Ravikant
Connect with Mahan Tavakoli:
Mahan Tavakoli Website
Mahan Tavakoli on LinkedIn
Partnering Leadership Website
Welcome to the Best Of series on Partnering Leadership.
While many of us take a bit of a breather in July and August, we’re revisiting standout episodes—conversations that are worth hearing again, especially as leadership challenges shift and new moments call for fresh thinking.
I’ve also pulled together 12 of the leadership books I recommend most often—each linked below to my conversation with the author.
Whether it’s your first listen or a return visit, the best conversations have a way of revealing something new when the moment calls for it.
We’ll be back in September with more great conversations and powerful ideas.
Thanks for continuing to learn, grow, and lead in ways that make a real difference.
—Mahan
Trust & Inspire – Stephen M. R. Covey
CEO Excellence – Carolyn Dewar, Scott Keller & Vik Malhotra
Simple Truths of Leadership – Ken Blanchard & Randy Conley
Leading Change – John Kotter
How to Lead – David Rubenstein
Prediction Machines – Ajay Agrawal, Avi Goldfarb & Joshua Gans
The Performance Paradox – Eduardo Briceño
How Minds Change – David McRaney
Human + Machine – Paul Daugherty & H. James Wilson
10 Stories Great Leaders Tell – Paul Smith
Turn the Ship Around! – L. David Marquet
Magic Words – Jonah Berger
"I would rather read the best 100 books over and over again until I absorb them rather than read all the books." Naval Ravikant
Connect with Mahan Tavakoli:
Mahan Tavakoli Website
Mahan Tavakoli on LinkedIn
Partnering Leadership Website
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Partnering Leadership is an award-winning global podcast for CEOs, board members, and senior executives who want to think more clearly about what is changing, what may be coming next, and what it…
Hosted by Mahan Tavakoli, the podcast draws on 450+ conversations with CEOs, founders, researchers, futurists, and leading thinkers on strategy, leadership, organizational transformation, innovation, and AI.
The conversations go beyond generic leadership advice.
They explore the questions senior leaders increasingly need to wrestle with:
What is changing that could reshape our business?
Which assumptions about strategy, customers, work, and organizations may no longer hold?
What will AI change beyond productivity?
Where might value move next?
How should organizations and leadership evolve as the answers change?
Guests have included Ram Charan, John Kotter, Stephen M.R. Covey, Ajay Agrawal, Azeem Azhar, Ranjay Gulati, Sangeet Paul Choudary, David Marquet, Bob Johansen, David Rubenstein, Jean Case, Paul Daugherty, Carolyn Dewar, Whitney Johnson, Ron Adner, and many others shaping how leaders think about strategy, organizations, technology, and the future of business.
Mahan brings an advisor’s perspective to each conversation, pushing beyond surface-level answers to explore the choices, trade-offs, and implications that matter in the C-suite and boardroom.
The result is a broader, more forward-looking perspective on the decisions leaders are making today and the ones they may need to make sooner than they think.
Available on all major podcast platforms and at PartneringLeadership.com.