Passion to Power

Devin Alyssa Papadol kicks to the left. Her Mom, Michelle Zeitlin, the host of PASSION TO POWER, kicks to the right. Devin is left handed, her mom is right handed. One's a diehard Scorpio and a "RockStar" and the other is the CEO of More Zap Productions & Management, a former Ballet Dancer and a Capricorn. This is PART ll of the conversation with Devin and Michelle.

• Devin breaks down what it's like tour with her band.
• She shares how much she's changed over the last couple years, shaped by both joys and disappointments.
• Devin talks about the genesis of her new album, LOVING AND LOSING. It's a very personal album, with new partnerships and producers, and Honey Revenge took some "Risks," as you'll hear on the record.

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A special Thank You and Shout Out to Bear Punch Studios in North Hollywood, California (BearPunch.tv) where we recorded both Part 1 and 2 of the interviews with Honey Revenge's Devin Papadol.

1. Jason Usry: Audio Engineer/Editor
2. Alec Papadol: Social Media Manager and Clips Editor
3. Dietz Woehle: Talent Coordinator, Passion to Power
4. Mark G. (Bear Punch Studios)

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P.S. There is a special give away by Honey Revenge- a signed vinyl album= check out their socials for announcements and the Instagram account: Passion to Power Pod-

Devin Papadol of Honey Revenge sits down with her Mom to reflect on the events and experiences that shaped her as they discuss the band's newly released album, " Loving and Losing."

• Passion to Power is Celebrating our 91st Episode with Honey Revenge and Devin A. Papadol:

"Loving and Losing" but also growing and flowing forward in Devin's personal and professional music journey —She's a little chip off the ol’ block- Devin Papadol talks with her Mom, Michelle Zeitlin, host of Passion to Power about what she inherited through nurture and and nature- genetically but also through emotional and social absorbtion.

• "Being in a band is very much about being surrounded by people..." She loves being around people and says she's an emotional adult and was an emotional kid.

She is constantly inspired-- what's catchy. She keeps journals and writes down ideas and flecks of ideas until they may seed a new song lyric. "Sunday Scaries are a really fun topic..." Says Devin. The words in her phone may be saved until they are the theme of a new song.

Family and found family - Devin Papadol of Honey Revenge talks about friendships, collaborations, the latest album and all the creative impact of a life making music with her band! 

• She leaves for her next TOUR on her Scorpio birthday- 🎂- and she says part of life “is the ebb and flow” and she explains the themes of Loving and Losing. 

• Devin shares what she got from her mother and father - the jaw line from Mom- the sense of humor from Dad- to whom she dedicated the album, along with her band partner Donovan Lloyd’s father too. Losing their dads has left a “crater” in her body. 
• Her Dad adored her and if you play the title track ballad, you'll hear him in a special message to Devin. "It Crushed Me," Says Michelle Zeitlin.

Thanks to the More Zap (www.morezap.com) team:

1. Alec Papadol, Social Media Manager, Video Editor
2. Jason Usry, Audio Engineer/Editor
3. Dietz Woehle, Talent Coordinator

You will learn about the edge of these new songs and the joy of working with some amazing producers and songwriters in collaboration. "Jealousy Monster" and "Sorry Much" are sampled here. 

Honey Revenge fans are "fluid" says Devin- and you can tell an HR fan when you come to a concert.

Check out and purchase their new album- in pink vinyl or CD, collectible materials, merchandise, and watch videos and interview clips, and book your TICKETS to the next Concert in a city near you- https://honeyrevenge.com/

• We are cross pollinating here- the little BEE from Honey Revenge is going to introduce a new audience to content we produce for Passion to Power; and our listeners from PtoP will be excited to discover LOVING and LOSING and learn more about Honey Revenge! Check out the full podcast library; you will discover episodes in music of all kinds and genres, film/TV, tech, digital design, scripting, visual and performance arts, experiential entertainment and More (Zap)! The guests on this show are #passionate #purposedriven and #powerful and they will excite you and ignite you to find your creative drive and a sustainable career in ARTS and ENTERTAINMENT.

• If your educational entity is interested, we can organize a Workshop or Clinic- in person or online- UK to LA, Melbourne to Montreal, Tel Aviv to Tokyo.

Contact us and we'll customize the program for your participants. Michelle Zeitlin is available for keynote #speaking events and we are always looking for new exciting guests to showcase on our podcast, so reach out to [email protected] and send a pitch!

New York to London- CHOREOGRAPHER, Aaron Thao is creating new work through incubators and creative collaboration, offering ballet work- "it may not pay 1000 pounds (British GBP) but there is money for performances- these are professionals and should be compensated..."

Some Key Conversational Point(e)s:

• Social media, ballet audiences, and the athletic side of dance
• How a modern class led Aaron toward ballet
• From medical school to dance medicine and New York training
• Building a freelance career across dance and side jobs
• Why London’s freelance scene and talent pool drew him in..

• Leading with kindness in a toxic ballet culture
• A NON Traditional PATH to DANCE as a CAREER- take a listen- Violin, Medical School, Business, and BALLET!
• For More on MORE ZAP please visit www.morezap.com
• or www.passion-power.com
• If you're in LONDON September 12/13 check out the performances--Sadler's Wells Theatre
• And GALA performances in upstate New York= listen and jot down the deets.
• If you are interested in taking a workshop or clinic, contact us; we design Creative Projects that are customized.

Publicists can pitch [email protected]

Names mentioned in the opening remarks include social media influencers/principal dancers, Skyler Brandt, ABT, Isabella Boylston, ABT new mom and still twirling.. Stephen McRae, Royal Ballet.

Note; Michelle Zeitlin, Host of Passion to Power is also a former ballet dancer, who has performed in NYC, Russia and in Europe, including with the Joffrey Ballet Concert Group and Kirov Ballet (Leningrad)

"It's always great to have cards in your sleeve because these days it's everything. There's so many things you have to do. Any extra is helpful because if you can play an instrument, it only adds to the soup.”

Discover insights from Tony winner Christopher Gatelli, known for his work on Newsies and Schmigadoon. This episode explores the evolution of musical theater, the characteristics of today's triple threats, and the power of mentorship in the arts.In this episode:

• Chris Gatelli shares his journey to winning a Tony and his recent projects
• The changing landscape of musical theater 
• The importance of ensemble work and versatile performers in modern productions
• Reflections on mentorship and the influence of choreographer Scott Salman
• Behind-the-scenes stories from Schmigadoon and Newsies
• The impact of theater education and training today
• Insights into directing and choreographing for TV vs. Broadway
• The future of musical theater and emerging talent

• Tony Winning Christopher Gattelli 

shares his views on Schmigadoon, the Broadway show and the TV show he staged prior. What are triple threats? What catches his eye in auditions? 

"It's like the main thing, the main thing when you, when you walk into a room is like, is just be as prepared as you can be because the one, because as I said earlier, like 99% doesn't have anything to do with you. So as long as you can walk out of that room and go, I was present for the combination."

What inspires him? GUYS and DOLLS, Jerome Robbins Broadway, the Golden Age of Musicals. Westside Story to Billion Dollar Baby...as a choreographer and director, he looks for people who are "present." Be a "quadruple threat" and that means being kind! Be prepared, show up and be yourself.

In this episode, we feature two performers who have valuable questions about the business of show. 

Emmy is an aspiring actress and dancer who studies in Southern CA and loves musicals! Gabe's base is Nashville and tours all over the US and abroad as a multi-instrumentalist, singer and actor for film & TV. He had questions for Chris Gattelli about "focus."

Listen UP! Don't miss a word. You'll get kernels of gold.

• Shout out to Stephanie Pope
• Kenny Ortega
• Cohen Brothers
• Matt West
• Jerry Mitchell
• Cynthia Onrubia
• Jeff Amsden
• and RIP, Scott Salmon who inspired both host, Michelle Zeitlin in her early Broadway audition days and Chris Gattelli who also had his own touching memories of Mr. Salmon. 

"I've been there...you get more with kindness." Says Gattelli who is very

kind himself,, works to be generous with advice and encourages his performers by being fair. "Can you do this 8 times a week?"

Follow him on socials and buy a ticket to see a Broadway show! 

Follow Michelle Zeitlin on socials, LinkedIn and here are the websites for her companies: 

⁠www.passion-power.com⁠

⁠www.morezap.com⁠

Takeaways • The Butterfly Effect: How Change Shapes Success with Beth Feldman, SVP of Comms, NexStar Media, CW NetworkSome of the Topic Points:* Self-advocacy and confidence are crucial for career advancement.* Embrace change and see transformation as a 'butterfly effect' of growth.* Kindness and effective communication are key leadership skills.* Networking and community involvement open doors and create opportunities.* Being fearless and early ambition can set the foundation for success.* Innovative approaches in media, including streaming and sports, drive growth.* Mentorship and collaboration are vital for personal and professional development.* Balancing personal life with career ambitions requires resilience.* Continuous learning and trend spotting keep you ahead in your field.* Authenticity and kindness foster stronger relationships and leadership influence.Michelle Zeitlin and Beth Feldman enjoyed an hour of vibrant and straight forward conversation as entrepreneurs, writers, musical theatre lovers and moms. PASSION TO POWER is a podcast for CREATIVES of all ages- especially those aspiring for careers in the arts, entertainment, media and music. Beth Feldman talks about her "transformative" career. Check out her bio on LinkedIn for more info.Michelle Zeitlin is the President of More Zap Productions & Management LLC and host of PASSION TO POWER (www.passion-power.com)

For more on our people and projects, see www.morezap.com

If you're a publicist and wish to pitch your GUEST for this podcast, please send a proposal to: [email protected] Thanks for Listening!

Triple Threat DIVA, that's what she is and much more...

• Stephanie Pope is an actress, singer, dancer, writer, director, choreographer, producer, voice actor, performance coach and  a musical theater veteran with a career spanning over 35 years. She has appeared in over 10 Broadway shows and recently received both Connecticut Critics Circle Award and Regional Theater Award nominations for her portrayals of Camila Rosario in Lin Manuel Miranda's In The Heights at Playhouse On Park Theater and Tanya in North Carolina Theater's Production of Mama Mia!. Her Broadway and touring credits include the revival of Pippin, for which she received an Astaire Award nomination, an ACCA Award and the beloved Legacy Robe, Chicago (Velma Kelly), Thoroughly Modern Millie (Muzzy Van Hossmere), Fosse (Leading Player), Smokey Joe's Cafe (Brenda), A Funny Thing… Forum (Gymnasia), Kiss of The Spider Woman (Stand-by for Ms. Chita Rivera), Jelly's Last Jam (The Hunnies) and The Will Rogers Follies...just to name a few.
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• Michelle Zeitlin and Stephanie Pope kept crossing paths, but never worked together, just around one another, Stephanie is back in Los Angeles May 20th, 2026 in a one night CABARET performance, directed by legendary director/performer, Ben Vereen.
• Stephanie currently teaches hot yoga in addition to producing and teaching master classes in the Verdon/Fosse style and method.
• She has worked alongside some amazing theatre and TV talents, and she has aspirations to do a bit more!
• At the time of recording, she is doing her one woman show "Livin’ It Up":
• https://catalinajazzclub.com/tm-event/stephanie-pope-livin-it-up-broadway-soul-singer/

• You can read more about this talented and elegant lady on her website.

Michelle Zeitlin hosts Passion to Power and she is a talent and literary representative, a former triple threat herself.

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• Passion-Power.com

From Hyperion, the publishing arm of Walt Disney, to Hachette, to launching her own IMPRINT, REGALO PRESS.

GRETCHEN YOUNG says "how can I prove to everyone else and to myself that these stories are worthy?" Now that she's working for her own shingle. She has nurtured, coached, mentoried and launched 65 authors. "I've never seen the kind of marketing of an author...the guerrilla marketing, the HUSTLE."

She is releasing a couple new TITLES this month including "Little Red Flags," fiction. She says this author is so hilarious and clever in the way she is getting her book out there to pre-order!

She was in TV NEWS before book publishing and used to be an "ambulance chaser" for the story, for the guests to book for GOOD MORNING AMERICA. Now she is letting the authors help - PR doesn't work so much anymore- millions of books are released each year- for real- so how do you BREAK THRU? "Our authors are hugging each other..it fills my heart!"

Gretchen Young loves to mentor and help writers learn about the book business and she is so proud of the debut authors she has placed on her list.

"I'll walk authors thru the process...whatever I can do!"

You can reach out to Gretchen:

https://posthillpress.com/regalo-press

and on Regalo's instagram or her LinkedIn. Or you can email directly: [email protected]

"I try to be warm and fuzzy."

She discusses literary agents, formats, conventions of submissions and proposals.

Do not miss a word- Listen UP!

If you're interested in learning more about MORE

ZAP PRODUCTIONS & MANAGEMENT LLC, you can visit www.morezap.com

and if you're interested in pitching yourself or your client as a guest of this podcast, reach out to Michelle and TEAM at www.passion-power.com

BTW Regalo means "gift" in Spanish and Gretchen studied Spanish literature in college.

She has published/edited some amazing writers- some very big names- but she's also excited about editing with the new crop. "Know your voice."

"What's your JAM?"

Here are kernels of gold! Share these episodes with your friends, colleagues, and students in the arts, entertainment, media. #passiontopower

We are offering WORKSHOPS and International on line and in-person EVENTS with PASSION TO POWER.

Reach out for more info! [email protected]

KERRI ZANE

• AI Innovation: Kerri Zane’s Creative Career Journey

SummaryIn this engaging interview, Kerri Zane shares her extensive experience in reality TV, her innovative ventures into AI in media, and invaluable advice for aspiring producers and storytellers. Discover how she navigates the evolving landscape of entertainment, the role of AI, and tips for success in the industry.

Sound Bites

• "Never give up. I never stop. I never give up."
• "When someone says no to me, that's when I get started."

Chapters

• Setting the Stage: Introduction and Background

• Embracing AI in Media: A New Era

• The Art of Production: Roles and Responsibilities

• Reality TV: Crafting Stories and Conflict

• Navigating the Pitch Process: Tips for Success

• The Evolution of Content Creation: From Traditional to AI

• The Importance of Human Creativity in AI

• Advice for Aspiring Creatives: Never Give Up

• Books and Personal Growth: Sharing Experiences

• Closing Thoughts: The Future of Storytelling

How women are rewriting the rules—no apologies needed

Drop a 💪 if you agree that being strong isn’t just okay, it’s vital.In a world that constantly questions women’s roles—whether in media, tech, or leadership—success often means breaking the mold without guilt.

Kerri Zane shares what it truly means to stand your ground, especially as a woman in male-dominated spaces. She reminds us: "When people say no, that’s when you get started."

Her story isn’t just about career wins or AI—it's about resilience, assertiveness, and owning your voice, whatever your age or stage.

• Want to know how she’s empowering the next generation of women? Even in tech—her secret weapon is fierce education and community.Remember: the most powerful thing you can do is claim your space with confidence.
• What’s your biggest challenge in advocating for yourself as a woman? Drop your thoughts below—let’s talk.

Reachout to Kerri: https://lumovex.com/

Michelle Zeitlin (host and producer of Passion to Power) and Kerri Zane are both Z like ZEBRAS and two women with a Z in their names- they are creating the ZEITGEIST!

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Thanks for listening! And please share with your friends and colleagues. While on YOUR Yellow Brick Road to Success, LiSTEN UP! for Kernels of Gold.

Carin Greenberg’s journey in creating "Weather Hunters" encapsulates the spirit of resilience and creativity in children’s programming. Her experiences remind us that perseverance, collaboration, and a passion for storytelling are crucial in bringing educational content to life.

As we celebrate this new series, it stands as a testament to the importance of engaging young minds with knowledge about the world around them.

Carin is a multi-award winner for her TV work as writer and producer. She tells us about her Emmys, Annies and Writers Guild recognitions and is also generous in sharing credit with collaborators in development, writing, production in live action and animation.

A die hard NEW YORKER she works from her studio/office and "doesn't even have to take the subway."

But she does love to walk Manhattan and she has other artistic hobbies and passions.

"Our Creative team for Weather Hunters spans from Canada to New York, proving that storytelling knows no boundaries! "

#Animation #Collaboration #WeatherHunters #PBSKids #GlobalTeam #Storytelling #Creativity #KidsTV #AlRoker #BehindTheScenes  

💡 Ever thought about how many people it takes to create a beloved children’s show? 🤔  

From animators in Canada to directors in NYC, it truly takes a village! Join us in celebrating the launch of "Weather Hunters"!  

#WeatherHunters #PBSKids #Animation #Teamwork #KidsShows #AlRoker #CreativeJourney #BehindTheScenes #Storytelling #FamilyFun  

🔍 What does it take to get a show on the air? 🎬  

Join us as we dive into the challenges and triumphs of creating "Weather Hunters," a series that took years to bring to life!  

What challenges have you overcome in your creative journey? Share your story! 💬  Listen to all the Episodes and Please Share with friends and colleagues.

• Host is Michelle Zeitlin, President and founder of MORE ZAP (morezap.com)

More Zap and MZ is available to bring Passion to Power to you- panel discussions, workshops and customized clinics about the arts and entertainment. #passiontopower contact us [email protected]

#WeatherHunters #PBSKids #Animation #CreativeProcess #AlRoker #KidsTV #Storytelling #Inspiration #Challenges #FamilyEntertainment

Creative Rabbi

Both Michelle and Rabbi Yitzi discuss how their passions have empowered them in their careers, with a focus on teaching, uplifting others, and creative expression.

Balancing ValuesRabbi Yitzi talks about the Jewish tradition of asking questions and balancing competing values, drawing parallels to the story of "Fiddler on the Roof."

Summary

In this engaging conversation, Michelle Zeitlin interviews Yitzi Wiener, a rabbi and media entrepreneur, exploring his journey from aspiring architect to rabbi, and now to a media figure. They discuss the importance of teaching, storytelling, and the role of questions in learning. Yitzi shares insights on journalism, the impact of current events on personal health, and the dynamics of family life. The conversation culminates in a reflection on passion and purpose, emphasizing the importance of uplifting others through meaningful work.

Takeaways

• Yitzi's journey from aspiring architect to rabbi was driven by a desire to help others.
• The role of questions in Judaism encourages deeper thinking and engagement.
• Storytelling is a powerful tool for learning and sharing experiences.
• Yitzi aims to create uplifting content through his media ventures.
• The importance of focusing on commonalities rather than divisions in society.
• Navigating the challenges of journalism in a polarized world is crucial.
• Personal reflections on current events highlight the emotional toll of global issues.
• Family dynamics change as children grow and learn to support each other.
• Passion for teaching and uplifting others is central to Yitzi's mission.
• Finding purpose in one's passions can lead to a fulfilling life.

"A question makes you think."

Turning the Tables: Yitzi Wiener's Journey

Becoming a Rabbi: The Path to Smicha (or Semicha) 

Teaching and Media: Bridging Two Worlds

Authority Magazine: A New Kind of Journalism

The Importance of Questions in Judaism

Stories as a Learning Tool

The Role of Journalism in Today's Society

Creative Writing and Community Engagement

Navigating Current Events and Jewish Identity

Reflection and Goals
Michelle Zeitlin reflects on the past year and discusses her excitement about the interview with Rabbi Yitzi Weiner, highlighting the importance of reflection, goal setting, and learning from experiences in the arts and entertainment industry.
Rabbi Yitzi Weiner's Journey
Rabbi Yitzi shares his journey to becoming a rabbi, emphasizing the extensive learning required and his focus on teaching Torah to help others live a refined life.
Authority Magazine
Rabbi Yitzi discusses the founding of Authority Magazine, aiming to provide empowering and nourishing stories, contrasting with the often negative and addictive nature of traditional news.
Importance of Stories
The conversation highlights the power of stories in teaching and learning, with Rabbi Yitzi emphasizing that stories are a fundamental way humans learn and connect across generations.