Pastor Pastor

Pastor Pastor

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Pastor Pastor episodes

  • The Romans 7 Man

    In today's episode, Wes Pastor is joined in the studio by B.J. Walters, lead pastor of Redeeming Grace Church, a NETS Network church in northern Vermont. Grab your Bible and listen in as these skilled pastor-theologians take a deep yet practical dive into Romans 7. Does Romans 7 describe your life? Discover why your answer to that question is crucial to shepherding your flock—and even to your own soul.

    44 min
  • Walking by the Spirit

    If sin’s power has been broken in a Christian's life, why do we still sin? Is it a failure to walk by the Spirit moment by moment? Building on our last episode, "Slave or Free?," Wes Pastor unpacks key passages that shape our understanding of sin's influence and our freedom in Christ. This thought-provoking conversation clarifies common misconceptions concerning growth in holiness, struggles with sin, and what it really means to walk by the Spirit.


    47 min
  • Slave or Free?

    What does it mean to be a Christian? In this thought-provoking conversation, Wes Pastor brings a clarity to conversion that has sobering implications both for pastors and the flocks they shepherd. Drawing on his pastoral experience and his PhD studies, Wes exposes the root of conversion confusion and explains what it looks like to have a faith that works.

    50 min
  • Toddlers, Teens & Tattoos

    Parenting is never easy, and for pastors, the challenges can be even more complex. In this episode, Rob Trubia asks Wes Pastor how parents can raise children who love the church rather than grow to resent it. Wes offers wisdom on building strong, lasting relationships that carry through the teenage years and into adulthood.

    52 min
  • Why Am I So Mad?

    Wes Pastor and Rob Trubia continue their conversation on anger with a discussion on what habitual anger can reveal about the state of your soul. Wes shares biblically and practically from his own experience battling this besetting sin, including adjusting expectations to keep anger at bay, practicing righteousness in the power of the Spirit, and embracing the confidence a Christian has in winning the battle against anger.


    51 min
  • I'm So Mad!

    In part 1 of our two-part series on anger, Wes Pastor and host Rob Trubia explore this universal emotion that can have devastating consequences for your church. Discover the difference between sinful and non-sinful anger, and find out how to deal with all anger swiftly and biblically. 

    35 min
  • What Did You Say?

    As we launch Season 2, Wes draws on his decades of experience as both a husband and pastor as he and Rob discuss godly communication. Learn the importance of closing the loop, how to listen with understanding, and why it's sometimes wise to say nothing at all. There's also a thought-provoking dive into technology and communication. Don't miss this episode filled with steps you can take today to strengthen your marriage and build up your church.

    48 min
  • All Wrapped Up: Season 1

    As we wrap up Season 1 of “Pastor Pastor,” we’ve put together a special episode filled with highlights from the year. As we look back, we're reminded of what a blessing this season was to produce. It's been an even greater blessing to receive such encouraging feedback from you, our listeners. We look forward to Season 2, and thank you for being part of this ministry.

    44 min
  • Soul Physician

    Episode 15 of “Pastor Pastor” dives deep into the heart of pastoral ministry as Wes answers the critical but often neglected question, "What does it mean to shepherd as a soul physician?" Listen as Wes and Rob explore how pastors can discern the spiritual health of those entrusted to their care without becoming 'soul police'.  Their conversation will stretch your understanding of pastoral care and provide biblical tools to help diagnose your flock. It's a topic with eternal consequences for pastors and the souls they shepherd.

    53 min
  • MDiv Evolution... or Revolution?

    Seminary education was once the gold standard for pastoral training. What's changed, and why does it matter? In today's episode of "Pastor Pastor," Wes dives into the shifting landscape of pastoral preparation, from apprenticeships to the rise of seminaries to today's dramatic increase in online studies. He discusses why fewer pastors pursue seminary training and the ripple effects this trend may have on the church. Finally, Wes introduces an innovative program from NETS that meets the need for education and practice head-on, blending cutting-edge online learning with real-world pastoral experience.

    47 min

About Pastor Pastor

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Welcome to "Pastor Pastor," a podcast designed especially for pastors, church planters, and church revitalizers. Hosted by Wes Pastor, the president of The NETS Center for Church Planting and…

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