228. Pastor Through DISASTER

Brandon Reed joins us on episode 228 for a thought-provoking conversation on learning to pastor and lead through chaos. Discover how good leaders own failures and give away successes. And what does it even mean to say Jesus Changes Everything? Plus find out why Jesus would be better at ping pong than water polo, what book are we kicking out of the Bible & much more! Note: due to some technical issues there were a couple of short sections where we had to rely on the backup audio. But we avoided disaster and pastored our way straight through it.