"For the longest time, Paul's Epistle to the Romans has been used to justify misogyny, homophobia, eternal conscious torment, and blind allegiance to the State. However, the truth is that the Apostle Paul never intended his letter to the Church in Rome to teach any of those things. That's why co-authors Keith Giles and Matthew J. Distefano have collaborated to correct these misunderstandings and illuminate the true meaning of Paul's theological masterpiece for today's Christian reader." 

In this engaging conversation, hosts Zack and Andy welcome Keith Giles and Matthew J. Distefano from Quoir Publishing to discuss their new book on Romans, "Reading Romans Right: Correcting Common Misreadings, Restoring Paul's Original Intent". 

They explore themes of faith, disagreement, and the importance of listener feedback in the podcasting world. The discussion delves into the misreadings of Romans, the nature of God's wrath, and the implications of eternal torment not being mentioned by Paul, challenging traditional interpretations and emphasizing the need for a more nuanced understanding of scripture. 

The conversation highlights the role of scholarship in making complex theological concepts accessible to a broader audience, ultimately aiming to foster a more compassionate and understanding approach to faith. 

In this conversation, the speakers delve into various theological perspectives, particularly focusing on the teachings of Paul and the interpretation of his letters. They explore the concept of God's wrath, the importance of understanding the historical context of scripture, and the role of women in the early church. 

The discussion also touches on the impact of video games on narrative engagement and how these experiences can parallel the exploration of faith and belief. Ultimately, the speakers aim to present a more nuanced understanding of Paul's message, emphasizing that it is rooted in good news rather than fear-based theology.

Check out more from Keith and Matthew:

https://quoir.com/

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Watch Keith debate "dr" James White HERE

Matthew J. Distefano is the author of multiple books, including The Wisdom of Hobbits, winner of the 17th annual National Indie Excellence Award for best philosophy book. He is an audio engineer, the producer of the Heretic Happy Hour podcast, cohost of Apostates Anonymous, and is a regular columnist for Patheos. He holds an undergraduate degree in Education from California State University, Chico, and has been in social work for over a decade, currently working as a Professional Service Coordinator in Butte County, California. In addition to his professional life, Matthew enjoys gardening, bicycling, and European football. He is a huge Tolkien nerd who one day hopes to live in Bag End with his wife and daughter. You can find his work at allsetfree.com.

Keith Giles is the best-selling author of the Jesus Un series. He has appeared on CNN, USA Today, BuzzFeed, and John Fugelsang's "Tell Me Everything." Keith and his wife currently reside in El Paso.

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In this episode, the bros explore various themes, including their podcasting journey, humorous skiing mishaps, the death of the controversial figure of the ‘Cussing Pastor’ Thaddeus Matthews, and the complexities of forgiveness and authenticity in faith. 

They discuss the balance between being genuine and appropriate in their conversations, reflecting on their experiences and the impact of their words. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the nuances of comedy, particularly the balance between clean and explicit humor. They explore the subjective nature of cursing, its context, and its impact on communication. 

The discussion transitions into the language of faith, examining how words can build or tear down and the importance of understanding grace and forgiveness in a religious context. 

Feedback from listeners is also addressed, highlighting the complexities of faith and morality.

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In episode 254 of Bros Bibles & Beer, Andy, Jeff, and Zack explore various themes including the contrast between the kingdom of God and human empires, the burden of forgiveness, and the implications of personal grooming. Don't tell us we don't have a lot of range! 

We also discuss the role of USAID in American foreign policy, the cognitive dissonance experienced by Christians regarding political issues, and the complexity of political perspectives. Our conversation highlights the complexities of forgiveness and the impact of personal circumstances on one's ability to forgive. 

They discuss the need for the church to operate without financial dependence on external entities, the definitions and conditions surrounding forgiveness, and the personal benefits of letting go of resentment. The conversation emphasizes that true forgiveness is often a selfish act (in a good way!) that ultimately benefits the forgiver, and highlights the importance of modeling behavior in teaching forgiveness to children. 

We share personal experiences of loss and the journey towards forgiveness, emphasizing the importance of time and support from loved ones. The discussion transitions into the nature of divine forgiveness and the misconceptions surrounding it, particularly in relation to Christian beliefs. We, well, mostly Zack challenge some traditional views of Christianity, advocating for a more authentic expression of faith that prioritizes love and personal growth over mere doctrinal adherence.

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In this conversation, Andy, Jeff & Zack explore the complexities of faith, questioning the effectiveness of their beliefs and the struggles that come with them. They discuss the challenges of adhering to Christian teachings in a difficult world, the disillusionment with prosperity theology, and the search for joy beyond material possessions. 

The importance of morning routines and reframing negative thoughts is emphasized, along with the nature of apologies and forgiveness in relationships. 

The conversation culminates in a discussion about sin, confession, and personal responsibility in one's faith journey. They discuss the importance of acknowledging one's sins, the dynamics of seeking forgiveness from others, and the transformative power of love. 

They discuss the death of Hal Lindsey and the impact of his book 'The Late Great Planet Earth' on American Christianity, the role of celebrities in promoting faith-based products, and the complexities of voting as a Christian. 

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Apologies for the audio quality. Due to a demon infecting the ones & zeros we were forced to use our backup recording. 

In this episode of Bros Bibles and Beer, we explore various themes including the divisive experience of trying a unique pickle beer, the divisiveness in politics and society, the role of social media in amplifying these divisions, and the impact of cultural and technological changes on human connection. 

We also discuss the church's response to these societal shifts, emphasizing the importance of community and shared values amidst growing polarization. We discuss how identity politics have created divisions, the importance of individual perspectives over group labels, and the challenges of navigating inclusivity within faith communities. 

The conversation also touches on the historical context of the church's stance on social issues and the need for a more nuanced understanding of acceptance versus affirmation. 

In this conversation, we delve into the complexities of the church's role in society, discussing the infiltration of worldly influences through social media, the balance between local and global missions, and the implications of the Great Commission. 

We explore the challenges faced by church leaders in addressing current events while maintaining a focus on biblical teachings and community service.

Takeaways: 

-Social media amplifies divisiveness in politics and society. 

-The experience of trying unique beers can lead to humorous discussions. 

-Divisiveness has always existed, but its current form feels more pronounced. 

-The church plays a crucial role in maintaining community amidst societal changes. 

-Dopamine addiction from social media affects mental health and relationships. 

-The pandemic highlighted existing divisions within communities and churches. 

-Cultural and technological changes can erode human connection. 

-People often exist in echo chambers, reinforcing their own beliefs. 

-The importance of finding common ground in a polarized society.

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Voting day always comes with its unique stories, doesn't it? Imagine the surprise on my face when one of us decided to write in their dad's name as a candidate! Episode 250 of Bros Bibles & Beer takes you on an introspective journey through the aftermath of the elections, mixing humor with a dash of political exhaustion. 

We share our personal experiences at the polls, discuss the rollercoaster of emotions these elections stirred up, and express a longing for simpler, less intrusive governance. We juxtapose our current sentiments against those from elections past, acknowledging the fatigue that comes with continuous political upheaval. 

As the conversation unfolds, we dive into concerns about how shifts in power might erode personal freedoms, drawing from personal stories and historical events. The atmosphere during Obama's time, with folks stockpiling supplies due to fears of drastic change, serves as a backdrop for our exploration of recent government restrictions. We dissect the Democratic Party's electoral challenges, highlighting the need for a shift in strategy beyond identity politics and media narratives. 

Political polarization and the intertwining of faith and politics are explored, especially regarding immigration, as we ponder the role of the church in these complex times. The latter part of the episode tackles societal shifts and the balancing act between compassion and legality in immigration. We explore how the church can navigate the rise in non-binary identities while staying true to traditional beliefs. 

With engaging anecdotes and humorous interludes, we venture into discussions about taxation, historical societal shifts, and the cultural phenomena shaping our world. From the intriguing debate on Saint Augustine's pronunciation to the playful creation of a fictional dating app, "Accidental Finder," we ensure a mix of thoughtful reflection and lighthearted banter, all wrapped up with gratitude to our listeners. Cheers to another episode filled with camaraderie and compelling conversation!

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What do you do when your beliefs collide with your ballot? 

Would Jesus Vote? And if so, who would he vote for? 

Recently Josh Howerton of LakepointeChurch  gave a sermon titled "How To Vote Like Jesus". We use a couple of clips from that as a springboard into this incredible conversation. We are not on the same page in this one. 

Our exploration veers into the moral complexities of voting and Christian responsibility in political engagement. We wrestle with the idea of rebellion against God by not voting, dissect the notion of third-party futility, and debate the ethics of supporting a system that may contradict Christian values. 

With humor and sincerity, we reflect on America’s perception as a Christian nation and the divisive nature of current political discourse. As we raise our glasses in fellowship, we invite you into our community, where shared beliefs and joy in connection shine through every earnest exchange. We cannot cover all of the bases so let us know where you stand with all of this!

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Art and Brenda Greco join us for a conversation that's both engaging and insightful, giving us a glimpse into their journey through faith, culture, and marriage. We dive into the joys and sometimes hilarious challenges of marriage decision-making dynamics, where Brenda’s calming influence often keeps Art's bold personality in check. 

We tackle the challenges of church transitions and the wisdom that comes with age, particularly in navigating interim pastoral roles amidst staff dysfunction. The importance of emotional intelligence and curiosity is underscored, as is the humorous impact of sports team performances on our emotions. 

Through personal anecdotes, we explore how different decision-making styles in marriage can lead to both harmony and chaos, highlighting the balance between impulsiveness and careful deliberation. 

This episode takes a heartfelt turn as we discuss the unique dynamics of being a pastor's spouse, emphasizing mutual respect and open communication, especially when facing personal struggles like depression and anxiety. Art and Brenda offer candid reflections on supporting partners in church leadership without succumbing to traditional gender roles. We wrap things up by expressing our gratitude to the Grecos for their wisdom and camaraderie, celebrating the enriching fellowship shared over a beer. Come laugh, learn, and feel the love with us in this heartwarming episode of Bros Bibles and Beer.

(00:00) Faith, Culture, and Marriage Exploration (14:20) Navigating Church Transition Challenges (21:29) Decision-Making Dynamics in Marriage (34:02) Support and Respect in Marriage (48:41) Navigating Pastoral Burnout Challenges (01:02:49) Open Communication in Marriage (01:06:39) Gender Roles in Church Leadership (01:17:25) Generational Wisdom and Gratitude

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Surprising new data is in on whether GenZ men or women are leaving the church. We dig into and get all robust with this conversation.

Are young men feeling isolated, unsupported, and under constant attack in today's culture? 

When they turn to the church for guidance, they often find little support, leading many to seek controversial internet figures instead. Some feel masculinity has been attacked and stripped away in the social media age, yet it remains prominent in the real world. Amidst discussions on toxic masculinity, there's a perceived lack of initiatives nurturing positive masculine growth and responsibility among young men. 

This may be contributing to Gen Z Christian males becoming more religious than their female peers, who are increasingly religiously unaffiliated, and disillusioned potentially by abuse revelations like #MeToo and #ChurchToo. 

For the first time ever, young men are outpacing young women when it comes to church affiliation and religious expression. • Young men are now more religious than young women, contradicting a long-held narrative. 

• Young men feeling unsupported, isolated, and under constant attack, turning to controversial internet figures for guidance. 

• Masculinity has been attacked and stripped away in the social media age, leading to a lack of personal connection and reality. 

• Gen Z women increasingly religiously unaffiliated, disillusioned by #MeToo, #ChurchToo abuse revelations. 

• Young women leaving churches due to pastors' sexual misconduct and abuse. 

• Young men value traditional family life more than young women, contrasting with societal narratives promoting career success. 

• Complementarian churches reduce women's visibility, driving them away yet liberal denominations ordaining women decline steeply. 

• Conservative and liberal churches face challenges regarding growth and retention, with liberal churches struggling due to a lack of clear boundaries. 

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In episode 246 We have presidential debate hot-takes & discuss whether, according to  @ChristianityTodayMagazine, public schools are a training ground for our kid's faith. Or in Kirk Cameron's words, "We’re gonna have little kids that come back as little Marxists, little statists, little drag queens, strippers, drug dealers and, you name it” 

We react to the presidential debates and question how to align Christian values with candidates' stances, especially on hot-button issues like war and abortion. Politics is a mess, with confusing contradictions that leave some disillusioned and abstaining from voting, while others reluctantly vote for the lesser evil or remain genuinely enthusiastic about their candidate. 

"We only have so much information to go on about who that individual is, and who we want them to be. And so in the absence of information, we as humans will fill in those gaps with the things that we want." - Andy 

We also discuss an article on CTmagazine on sending your kids to public school that has elicited wild reactions from Christians on X.com. "Public school is like strength training for our children's faith. 'Let them wrestle with worldly counternarratives to God’s truth while they’re still under your care.' " 

There is lots of Us vs. Them, either-or, in or out, and Black and White thinking to be sifted through in some of the reactions but we handle it like champs. Plus we add our own insights based on our experiences in private, public, and home-school setups. Let us know what you think! 

Key Take Aways: 

• Align personal values with political candidates' stances can be challenging, especially on issues like war and abortion. 

• Politics is complex, with inconsistencies that lead to disillusionment and voter abstention for some, while others vote strategically. 

• Long-distance relationships and lack of information about candidates lead to making positive assumptions. 

• Public schools are seen as spiritual battlefields by some conservative Christians, promoting paganism and indoctrination over critical thinking. 

• Finding the right balance in exposing children to different beliefs and perspectives is crucial for their development. 

• Over-sheltering or neglecting children can hinder their growth; parents must carefully introduce difficult knowledge. 

• Polarization and fear are fueled by technology, algorithms, and scare tactics across various domains like politics and religion. 

• Fear stems from a lack of control, and open communication with children is essential, avoiding dictation or extremist rhetoric.

 Links discussed: 

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2024/09/public-school-can-be-a-training-ground-for-faith/? 

-DO THE WEAVE https://youtu.be/QrZXhNKHUGw?si=SaoTwwY_NRV3PHII 

-Kirk Cameron FEAR https://x.com/hemantmehta/status/1823371238326112621?s=46&t=Sisp6iyZapiZ2PDX-OLVsA

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