Apologies for the audio quality. Due to a demon infecting the ones & zeros we were forced to use our backup recording. 

In this episode of Bros Bibles and Beer, we explore various themes including the divisive experience of trying a unique pickle beer, the divisiveness in politics and society, the role of social media in amplifying these divisions, and the impact of cultural and technological changes on human connection. 

We also discuss the church's response to these societal shifts, emphasizing the importance of community and shared values amidst growing polarization. We discuss how identity politics have created divisions, the importance of individual perspectives over group labels, and the challenges of navigating inclusivity within faith communities. 

The conversation also touches on the historical context of the church's stance on social issues and the need for a more nuanced understanding of acceptance versus affirmation. 

In this conversation, we delve into the complexities of the church's role in society, discussing the infiltration of worldly influences through social media, the balance between local and global missions, and the implications of the Great Commission. 

We explore the challenges faced by church leaders in addressing current events while maintaining a focus on biblical teachings and community service.

Takeaways: 

-Social media amplifies divisiveness in politics and society. 

-The experience of trying unique beers can lead to humorous discussions. 

-Divisiveness has always existed, but its current form feels more pronounced. 

-The church plays a crucial role in maintaining community amidst societal changes. 

-Dopamine addiction from social media affects mental health and relationships. 

-The pandemic highlighted existing divisions within communities and churches. 

-Cultural and technological changes can erode human connection. 

-People often exist in echo chambers, reinforcing their own beliefs. 

-The importance of finding common ground in a polarized society.

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Voting day always comes with its unique stories, doesn't it? Imagine the surprise on my face when one of us decided to write in their dad's name as a candidate! Episode 250 of Bros Bibles & Beer takes you on an introspective journey through the aftermath of the elections, mixing humor with a dash of political exhaustion. 

We share our personal experiences at the polls, discuss the rollercoaster of emotions these elections stirred up, and express a longing for simpler, less intrusive governance. We juxtapose our current sentiments against those from elections past, acknowledging the fatigue that comes with continuous political upheaval. 

As the conversation unfolds, we dive into concerns about how shifts in power might erode personal freedoms, drawing from personal stories and historical events. The atmosphere during Obama's time, with folks stockpiling supplies due to fears of drastic change, serves as a backdrop for our exploration of recent government restrictions. We dissect the Democratic Party's electoral challenges, highlighting the need for a shift in strategy beyond identity politics and media narratives. 

Political polarization and the intertwining of faith and politics are explored, especially regarding immigration, as we ponder the role of the church in these complex times. The latter part of the episode tackles societal shifts and the balancing act between compassion and legality in immigration. We explore how the church can navigate the rise in non-binary identities while staying true to traditional beliefs. 

With engaging anecdotes and humorous interludes, we venture into discussions about taxation, historical societal shifts, and the cultural phenomena shaping our world. From the intriguing debate on Saint Augustine's pronunciation to the playful creation of a fictional dating app, "Accidental Finder," we ensure a mix of thoughtful reflection and lighthearted banter, all wrapped up with gratitude to our listeners. Cheers to another episode filled with camaraderie and compelling conversation!

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What do you do when your beliefs collide with your ballot? 

Would Jesus Vote? And if so, who would he vote for? 

Recently Josh Howerton of LakepointeChurch  gave a sermon titled "How To Vote Like Jesus". We use a couple of clips from that as a springboard into this incredible conversation. We are not on the same page in this one. 

Our exploration veers into the moral complexities of voting and Christian responsibility in political engagement. We wrestle with the idea of rebellion against God by not voting, dissect the notion of third-party futility, and debate the ethics of supporting a system that may contradict Christian values. 

With humor and sincerity, we reflect on America’s perception as a Christian nation and the divisive nature of current political discourse. As we raise our glasses in fellowship, we invite you into our community, where shared beliefs and joy in connection shine through every earnest exchange. We cannot cover all of the bases so let us know where you stand with all of this!

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Art and Brenda Greco join us for a conversation that's both engaging and insightful, giving us a glimpse into their journey through faith, culture, and marriage. We dive into the joys and sometimes hilarious challenges of marriage decision-making dynamics, where Brenda’s calming influence often keeps Art's bold personality in check. 

We tackle the challenges of church transitions and the wisdom that comes with age, particularly in navigating interim pastoral roles amidst staff dysfunction. The importance of emotional intelligence and curiosity is underscored, as is the humorous impact of sports team performances on our emotions. 

Through personal anecdotes, we explore how different decision-making styles in marriage can lead to both harmony and chaos, highlighting the balance between impulsiveness and careful deliberation. 

This episode takes a heartfelt turn as we discuss the unique dynamics of being a pastor's spouse, emphasizing mutual respect and open communication, especially when facing personal struggles like depression and anxiety. Art and Brenda offer candid reflections on supporting partners in church leadership without succumbing to traditional gender roles. We wrap things up by expressing our gratitude to the Grecos for their wisdom and camaraderie, celebrating the enriching fellowship shared over a beer. Come laugh, learn, and feel the love with us in this heartwarming episode of Bros Bibles and Beer.

(00:00) Faith, Culture, and Marriage Exploration (14:20) Navigating Church Transition Challenges (21:29) Decision-Making Dynamics in Marriage (34:02) Support and Respect in Marriage (48:41) Navigating Pastoral Burnout Challenges (01:02:49) Open Communication in Marriage (01:06:39) Gender Roles in Church Leadership (01:17:25) Generational Wisdom and Gratitude

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Surprising new data is in on whether GenZ men or women are leaving the church. We dig into and get all robust with this conversation.

Are young men feeling isolated, unsupported, and under constant attack in today's culture? 

When they turn to the church for guidance, they often find little support, leading many to seek controversial internet figures instead. Some feel masculinity has been attacked and stripped away in the social media age, yet it remains prominent in the real world. Amidst discussions on toxic masculinity, there's a perceived lack of initiatives nurturing positive masculine growth and responsibility among young men. 

This may be contributing to Gen Z Christian males becoming more religious than their female peers, who are increasingly religiously unaffiliated, and disillusioned potentially by abuse revelations like #MeToo and #ChurchToo. 

For the first time ever, young men are outpacing young women when it comes to church affiliation and religious expression. • Young men are now more religious than young women, contradicting a long-held narrative. 

• Young men feeling unsupported, isolated, and under constant attack, turning to controversial internet figures for guidance. 

• Masculinity has been attacked and stripped away in the social media age, leading to a lack of personal connection and reality. 

• Gen Z women increasingly religiously unaffiliated, disillusioned by #MeToo, #ChurchToo abuse revelations. 

• Young women leaving churches due to pastors' sexual misconduct and abuse. 

• Young men value traditional family life more than young women, contrasting with societal narratives promoting career success. 

• Complementarian churches reduce women's visibility, driving them away yet liberal denominations ordaining women decline steeply. 

• Conservative and liberal churches face challenges regarding growth and retention, with liberal churches struggling due to a lack of clear boundaries. 

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In episode 246 We have presidential debate hot-takes & discuss whether, according to  @ChristianityTodayMagazine, public schools are a training ground for our kid's faith. Or in Kirk Cameron's words, "We’re gonna have little kids that come back as little Marxists, little statists, little drag queens, strippers, drug dealers and, you name it” 

We react to the presidential debates and question how to align Christian values with candidates' stances, especially on hot-button issues like war and abortion. Politics is a mess, with confusing contradictions that leave some disillusioned and abstaining from voting, while others reluctantly vote for the lesser evil or remain genuinely enthusiastic about their candidate. 

"We only have so much information to go on about who that individual is, and who we want them to be. And so in the absence of information, we as humans will fill in those gaps with the things that we want." - Andy 

We also discuss an article on CTmagazine on sending your kids to public school that has elicited wild reactions from Christians on X.com. "Public school is like strength training for our children's faith. 'Let them wrestle with worldly counternarratives to God’s truth while they’re still under your care.' " 

There is lots of Us vs. Them, either-or, in or out, and Black and White thinking to be sifted through in some of the reactions but we handle it like champs. Plus we add our own insights based on our experiences in private, public, and home-school setups. Let us know what you think! 

Key Take Aways: 

• Align personal values with political candidates' stances can be challenging, especially on issues like war and abortion. 

• Politics is complex, with inconsistencies that lead to disillusionment and voter abstention for some, while others vote strategically. 

• Long-distance relationships and lack of information about candidates lead to making positive assumptions. 

• Public schools are seen as spiritual battlefields by some conservative Christians, promoting paganism and indoctrination over critical thinking. 

• Finding the right balance in exposing children to different beliefs and perspectives is crucial for their development. 

• Over-sheltering or neglecting children can hinder their growth; parents must carefully introduce difficult knowledge. 

• Polarization and fear are fueled by technology, algorithms, and scare tactics across various domains like politics and religion. 

• Fear stems from a lack of control, and open communication with children is essential, avoiding dictation or extremist rhetoric.

 Links discussed: 

https://www.christianitytoday.com/2024/09/public-school-can-be-a-training-ground-for-faith/? 

-DO THE WEAVE https://youtu.be/QrZXhNKHUGw?si=SaoTwwY_NRV3PHII 

-Kirk Cameron FEAR https://x.com/hemantmehta/status/1823371238326112621?s=46&t=Sisp6iyZapiZ2PDX-OLVsA

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This is episode 245! We highlight something good a church did! Good news. On a podcast. Who knew? Now YOU do. 

A teenage boy known for attending church alone, without his parents, had an opportunity to share the Gospel with his father after the church, The Alter Fellowship in Johnson City, Tennessee partnered with a national program to pay off around $8 million of the community's medical debt.

 Also our own Andy just saw his eldest daughter of the college. Join us as we explore the bittersweet journey of watching your oldest child leave for college—a mix of pride, nostalgia, and the ache of letting go. We reflect on the emotions, the memories, and the growth that comes with this major life transition, both for parents and their children. 

And finally, a new study has found “proof” that suggests that the Shroud of Turin — long believed by many to be the burial cloth of Jesus Christ — could indeed date back to the time of Christ. Is this just a click bait-y story or is something real going on here? We enlist the help of, via reacting to a video on this very story by one of Zack's favorite creators and noted Bible scholar Dan Maklelan Also some very thoughtful listener feedback. 

Links to referenced stories: 

https://www.christianpost.com/news/church-pays-off-nearly-8-million-of-communitys-medical-debt.html https://relevantmagazine.com/culture/scientists-now-think-the-shroud-of-turin-could-actually-be-linked-to-jesus/ Maklelan on the Shroud of Turin
 

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In episode 244 we are joined by Paul Gibbs, founder of Pais Movement to talk about what it looks like to live a life on a Kingdom-centric mission the way Jesus modeled it. You've heard the slogan "What Would Jesus Do?". But Paul thinks it may be better to ask, "What did Jesus do?", and then go and do likewise. 

 Paul Clayton Gibbs is the Founder and Global Director of Pais Movement, he has planted and repurposed churches in both the UK and the USA. He travels globally providing consultancy and training to leaders. Paul is the author of several books including; ‘Talmidim – How To Disciple Anyone In Anything’. 

Pais Movement exists "To spark a movement where the primary mission of every Christian is to advance the Kingdom of God in the way Jesus modeled it." 

"Have you noticed there are two types of Christianity? While the Christian-centric gospel prioritizes personal transformation, the Kingdom-centric gospel compels us to transform our world. Both are Christianity, but one represents the kind of religion Jesus witnessed and the other, the kind He wanted. In his latest book, Kingdom Centric: Reframing Christianity, Paul Clayton Gibbs guides you through a series of awkward questions to help align your thoughts and practices to God’s true purpose for your life. When God’s people return to who He created us to be and lead others to do the same, we give God what He wants: His Kingdom on Earth as it is in Heaven. Take the free appraisal to discover how Kingdom-centric you are, and then use the ten ‘pivots’ in this book to revolutionize your relationship with God. If you have ever questioned whether the Christianity you experience is what Jesus had in mind, you will find this book revolutionary, practical, and full of insights that make sense."

 Links for Pais Movement: 

https://paismovement.com/

 https://www.youtube.com/paismovement 

https://www.instagram.com/paismovement 

https://www.facebook.com/paismovement

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In episode 243, we dive into the debate surrounding the Olympic opening ceremony and its potential impact on Christian viewers. We explore whether the ceremony's elaborate performances and symbolic elements cross the line of respect for Christian beliefs. Is everyone just waiting to be offended by something? Are there bigger problems to worry about? 

Also, there is no free will at least according to Zack. We dive into a heated debate on the nature of free will. One host argues that free will is an illusion, while the other two push back with compelling counterarguments.  It gets zesty! Join us as we explore the philosophical, psychological, and practical implications of this timeless debate and see if we can uncover some common ground.

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In episode 242, we dive headlong into the recent assassination attempt on Former President Donald Trump, a shocking event that has sent ripples through the nation. 

How should we, as Christians, respond to such acts of violence and turmoil? Was divine intervention at play in protecting the former president? And how can we embody the role of peacemakers in these turbulent times? 

Also, we react to a video of Steven Crowder, who describes himself as a Christian, where he talks about how now is NOT the time for unity. 

Join us as we explore these questions from our various perspectives. 

We'll discuss the importance of prayer and the need for a compassionate response grounded in love and understanding. Tune in to understand how we can uphold Christian values amidst chaos and be instruments of God's peace in the world. 

This episode is not just about addressing a specific event but about embracing our calling as followers of Christ to be agents of change and hope. Also, Listener Feedback is out of control!!!

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