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277. The Holy Trinity of Christian Outrage


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What happens when a simple video of leading worship sparks a viral "kerfuffle" north of a million views? This week, the guys sit down with Courtney Lancaster from the "Heal/Create" podcast to unpack the "Holy Trinity of Christian Outrage": religion, gender roles, and the deconstruction movement. 

Courtney shares the story behind her unexpected Instagram traction after posting a video of herself leading worship and opening up about her "faith reorganization." The conversation explores the tension of staying within a faith tradition while holding views that differ from conservative evangelical norms. 

Key Discussion Points: The "Mean Christian Comments" Game: Courtney and the hosts react to actual comments from her viral post, ranging from questions about women in ministry to accusations of "New Age psycho-babble." 

Theology of Shame vs. Trauma Recovery: A deep dive into why many were raised with the identity of "shame and depravity" (the idea that God is only good because we are bad) and how trauma-informed therapy offers a different lens on our value as "well-loved children of God."

 Worship Lyrics and Integrity: Courtney explains why she refuses to sing songs that rehearse a shame narrative, such as certain lyrics in "Reckless Love," arguing that a child shouldn't have to "earn" or "deserve" a parent's love. 

Post-Christianity and Individualism: The crew debates the concept of "post-Christianity"—stripping out parts of the faith one likes while discarding the rest—and whether this leads to a "narcissistic" echo chamber or a healthy "faith reorganization." 

The Future of the Church: Reflections on the closing of Mountain View Church and the hope that more "centered-set" spaces will emerge where people can wrestle with divergent ideas without being "kicked out." 

Information Overload: Andy and Courtney discuss how our brains aren't designed to handle the "woes of the world" delivered via 24/7 digital feeds, and the importance of "touching grass" to maintain mental health.

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