In this episode, Piper chats with Cameron Hepola about the history of evangelicalism, universalism and the Gospel, and how faith grows and evolves over time.

Cameron grew up in Michigan as a youth pastor's son. At the age of 10, he moved to Greenville, South Carolina where his dad served at a non-denominational megachurch. He attended Anderson University where he obtained a bachelor's degree in Christian Theology. After graduating, Cameron enrolled in a master's program in philosophy and began teaching Bible and Church History to middle school and high school students. Finally deciding to pursue a life-long dream after completing a MA in philosophy, Cameron applied to Duke Divinity School in Durham, North Carolina where he now studies the history of evangelicalism in America.

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In this episode, Piper is joined by Semler (aka Grace Baldridge, all pronouns). They discuss growing up abroad, the performative nature of communal worship, expanding our understanding of gender and God, and connecting with others through shared experiences and music.

Semler is an LA-based musician and content creator who made history with their EP Preacher's Kid as the first openly queer artist to hit Number 1 on the iTunes Christian music charts. The project was recorded on a USB-mic in her room and explored Semler's experience growing up as a queer person of faith. Following the success of Preacher's Kid Semler released another chart topping EP called Late Bloomer, toured with Relient K, and has amassed over 220k followers on tiktok. Semler has been featured on NPR, The Washington Post and Apple Radio. They are currently hibernating after two headline tours but look forward to releasing new music in the Spring of 2023.

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In this episode, Piper interviews her friend, Jaci Wells. They talk about their shared experience as Nazarene university grads, the perks of living in a parsonage, raising pastor’s kids, and the simplicity of loving God and loving people.

Jaci Wells is a pastor’s kid from Central Ohio. When she was in 3rd grade her father became a pastor, and seemingly overnight she became a pastor’s kid. After finishing her undergrad, she married her best friend Dan. Jaci and Dan now lead a ministry in the rural Appalachian region of Southeast Ohio. She also has two adventurous and rambunctious boys, Thomas and Lincoln. In addition to her involvement in ministry, Jaci owns and operates a successful custom cake business, Really Good Cakes in Dresden, Ohio.

You can follow her baking business on Instagram (@reallygoodcakesco).

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Another sister interview! In this episode, Piper interviews her little sister, Erin Ramsey. They discuss transitions, coming out, and evolving faith. Piper and Erin reminisce about Christian school problems and singing in the worship band.

Erin grew up a Nazarene pastor’s kid in Oklahoma and Texas. Her father started pastoring when she was one year old, and switched careers when she was 25, so she spent the entirety of her childhood and adolescence in church—anytime the door was open.

Erin is queer and engaged to her partner of 2.5 years, Kai, who she shares two dogs and two cats with. She’s currently in her 6th year of a clinical psychology program at a non-affirming evangelical seminary in Southern California and will graduate in 2024 with her PhD. She also holds an MA in clinical psychology and an MAT. Her master's thesis was about the experiences of guilt and shame among those who broke purity pledges, and her dissertation is about the experience of multiple minority students with microaggressions on college campuses and their identity development. She hopes to work in community mental health and on college campuses after graduation.

Erin is passionate about the intersection of queerness and faith, and has worked to foster a community on Instagram with fellow exvangelicals, queer students attending Christian institutions, and anyone else interested in the subjects of theology, queer identity, and facing heterosexism in day-to-day life.

You can connect with her on Instagram (@sanctified.sapphic).

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Piper Ramsey-Sumner is back to hosting Pastor’s Kid! In this episode, she interviews fellow podcaster, Josh Lieuallen. They discuss growing up as pastor’s kids in the 90’s and what it is like now to reflect on Christian culture and its influence. Piper and Josh bond over their shared experiences at the touring worship event/spectacle that was Acquire the Fire and muse over psychology and how religion functions in society.

Josh Lieuallen is a Montana-raised, Baptist PK, who now lives in Seattle and flirts with being ecumenical and sometimes calls himself a Christian-ish agnostic.

Growing up in the peak of 90’s American Christian culture, church has been a central experience for Josh. He had a Larryboy mural in his room from grade school through college, and he’s pretty sure his first crush was Connie Kendall from Adventures in Odyssey. Church also got him to learn how to play the drums, volunteer to be a youth leader, and attend ministry school before college.

Coincidentally, Josh always managed to play the part of “the drunk” in the Lifehouse Everything skit, and then went on to study Alcoholics Anonymous and spirituality for his undergrad in psychology and sociology.

Josh’s passion for people and meaningful dialogue extended into launching a project called Beerlosophy, where he has facilitated over 100 roundtable discussion events on controversial and current philosophical topics.

Josh currently is a co-host on a podcast called Ravel, works in the corporate side of the coffee industry for his day job, listens to too many podcasts, and is always searching for a good book.

Check out Ravel here. And find Josh on TikTok (@joshualieuallen) and Twitter (@joshlieuallen)!

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In this episode, Piper Ramsey-Sumner interviews one of her oldest friends, Emily Funkhouser. They talk about how moving across the country multiple times for her father’s ministry affected her childhood and how being married to another pastor’s kid has helped her feel seen and understood. Piper and Emily catch up on life after Christian college and discuss being the new kid, the importance of music, hell houses, shifting faith, and even a Fear Factor-themed Vacation Bible School!

Our guest, Emily Funkhouser, is an awarding-winning elementary music teacher with a passion for helping children of diverse backgrounds express themselves and find healing through music. She loves being creative, exploring the outdoors, and spending time with her husband, their dog, and their three cats! You can follow Emily’s teaching adventures on Instagram.

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Join our host, Piper Ramsey-Sumner, as she interviews Jay Bakker. They discuss Jay’s experience growing up in the public eye as the son of televangelists Jim and Tammy Faye Bakker. The conversation in this episode explores church clothes, forgiveness, authenticity, the radical nature of grace, punk music, and even the theology of the Apostle Paul!

Jay Bakker is our guest. He lives in Seattle, Washington, and is pastor of Revolution–a Christian community for those often rejected by the church that has met anywhere from bars to bowling alleys to homeless shelters. He is an author, a speaker, a pastor, and a father. Follow Jay and Revolution on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube. You can listen to his church’s podcast, Revolution Church, anywhere you find podcasts.

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Welcome to the first episode of Pastor's Kid! In this episode, our host, Piper Ramsey-Sumner interviews her big sister, Meghan Ramsey. They discuss being PKs in the Church of the Nazarene and growing up in the Bible Belt. Join along as the conversation dives into the evangelical bubble, perfectionism, the post-Columbine Christian persecution complex, authenticity, Bible college problems, church potlucks, summer camp, and so much more!

Our guest, Meghan Ramsey lives in DC, recently moving from the classroom to a career in education technology. She runs a blog all about how to travel the world on a teacher’s budget and she’s recently engaged! Follow her on Instagram and TikTok for career advice and travel tips.

Pastor's Kid is a place for religious deconstruction, for spiritual exploration, and for the evangelical and exvangelical alike to talk about growing up in the midst of contemporary religious traditions and navigating life, faith, and relationships on their own terms.

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Everyone has a story about a pastor’s kid, but every pastor’s kid also has a story to tell. Coming July 6, 2021 is Pastor’s Kid, a podcast for the curious and for those who were raised religious as they navigate life, spirituality, and relationships on their own. Hosted by Piper Ramsey-Sumner.