Pastors Talk - A podcast by 9Marks

Episode 265: On Pastoring Frustrated Sheep

Pastors are called to lead their sheep, even the frustrated ones.In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about how pastors should care for frustrated sheep in the church.

Episode 264: On the Doctrine of the Trinity, with Bobby Jamieson and Mark Feather

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman interview Bobby Jamieson and Mark Feather about why pastors should care about studying the doctrine of the Trinity.

Episode 263: On When You and Your Boss Have Different Philosophies of Ministry

What should you do when you disagree with your boss? Should you stay or leave? What are disagreeable philosophies of ministry? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about what you should do when you...

Counseling Talk—Episode 1: On Counseling Talk

Counseling Talk is here!In this episode, Jonathan Leeman interviews the hosts—Deepak Reju, Hayley Satrom, and Garrett Kell—about the what and why of Counseling Talk.

Episode 262: On Children's Ministry (Part 2), with Connie Dever

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman interview Connie Dever about children's ministry.

Episode 261: On Children's Ministry (Part 1), with Connie Dever

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman interview Connie Dever about children's ministry in a local church.

Episode 260: On Residential or Online Seminary?

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman chat about seminary training.

Episode 259: On Corporate Application in Preaching, with Cheston Pickard

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman chat with Cheston Pickard, a pastor in Louisville, about corporate applications in preaching.

Episode 258: On When May a Congregation Vote Against its Elders, with Jamie Dunlop

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman chat with Jamie Dunlop about when a congregation should vote against its elders.

Episode 257: On Congregational Singing

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about congregational singing in a local church. Why do Christians sing?What kinds of songs should we sing at church?What is congregational singing?What does Colossians 3:16 mean?How can I...

Episode 256: On Leadership and Church Size Dynamics

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman interact with Tim Keller's article, "Leadership and Church Size Dynamics"Tips for leading my church wellWhat program should I start in my church?How can I lead my church staff well?What...

Episode 255: On Transcendence

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about transcendence in worship services.

Episode 254: On Interacting After Church Discipline

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about how we should interact with church disciplined members.

Episode 253: On Criteria for Church Discipline

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about different criteria for discipline.

Episode 252: On Catholicity

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about the newest edition of Church Matters, Catholicity: Churches Partnering Together.

Episode 251: On Love the Ones Who Drive You Crazy (with Jamie Dunlop)

If your church is centered on Christ alone, unity will sometimes involve building genuine friendships with Christians with whom you honestly don't share much in common. In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever interviews Jamie Dunlop about his new...

Episode 250: On Statements of Faith

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about the role and the importance of statements of faith.

Episode 249: On Church Covenants

What's the history behind church covenants? Do they have more or less authority than the Bible? Is having a church covenant abusive? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talk about church covenants.

Episode 248: On Words

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman talks about the importance of words in pastoral ministry.

Episode 247: On Shepherding the Pastor (with Phil Newton and Rich Shadden)

Young pastors often have clear vision but little depth perception. From the interview phase to what to preach next, young pastors need guidance from older pastors around the area to offer wisdom and guidance.In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark...

Episode 246: On Planting by Pastoring (with Nathan Knight)

In this Pastors Talk episode, Mark and Jonathan interview Nathan Knight, one of the pastors at Restoration Church in Washington, D.C.

Episode 245: On Pastoral, Public Tone (with Kevin DeYoung)

In this Pastors Talk episode, Jonathan interviews Mark and Kevin DeYoung on pastoral, public tone.

Episode 244: On Authority

Dr. Leeman is in the hot seat! In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark interviews Jonathan about his new book, Authority, and how Christians should wield authority.Authority by Jonathan Leeman

Episode 243: On Pastoring (with Bart Barber)

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan talk with Bart Barber, the President of the Southern Baptist Convention, about pastoring.

Episode 242: On Staffing Titles

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan chat about staffing titles in the church.

Episode 241: On How to Disagree with Your Pastor

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan talk about how to disagree with your pastor.

Episode 240: On Friendship with God (with Mike McKinley)

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan interview Mike McKinley about his new book, Friendship with God: A Path to Deeper Fellowship with the Father, Son, and Spirit

Episode 239: On A New Christian Authoritarianism?

A few weeks ago, we published a new edition of Church Matters—formerly known as the 9Marks Journal—that addresses a few unusual topics: Christian nationalism, theonomy, and magisterial Protestantism.In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman and Mark Dever explain why.

Episode 238: On American Exceptionalism (with John Wilsey)

How should a Christian think about patriotism? Why should pastors especially be careful of both nostalgia and cynicism? In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan Leeman chats with SBTS professor John D. Wilsey about all these questions and more.

Episode 237: On Having Difficult Conversations

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan chats with Mark about this under-reported aspect of a pastor's job description.

Episode 236: On Is Hell Real (with Dane Ortlund)

Episode 235: On Spurgeon the Pastor (with Geoff Chang)

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan chat with Geoff Chang about Spurgeon the pastor.

Episode 234: On Spurgeon and the Poor (with Alex DiPrima)

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan chat with Alex DiPrima, the author of Spurgeon and the Poor.

Episode 233: On Charges of Domestic Abuse (with Deepak Reju)

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan chat with Deepak Reju about pastoral responses to domestic abuse.

Episode 232: On Reaching and Mobilizing College Students (with Matt Schmucker and Paul Billings)

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan talk with Matt Schmucker and Paul Billings about reaching, discipling, and mobilizing college students for missions.

Episode 231: On the Lord's Supper - Nuts and Bolts (with Bobby Jamieson)

It's clear in Scripture: local churches should celebrate the Lord's Supper. But there's a lot about these celebrations that is up to us to decide. In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan asks Mark and Bobby a ton of rapid-fire...

Episode 230: On Christian Publishing in Africa (with Tommie van der Walt)

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark and Jonathan chat with Tommie van der Walt about the state of Christian publishing in South Africa.

Episode 229: On Green Dot and Red Dot Churches

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Jonathan and Mark talk about “red-dot churches” and “green-dot churches.”Related Resources:“Discipling” by Mark Dever“Evangelism” by Mack Stiles“Elders–The Church’s Lead Disciple-Makers” by Jeramie Rinne“A Foolproof Discipling Program: Corporate Worship” by John Sarver“Cultivating a Culture of...

Episode 228: On Caring for Missionaries (with Miller Johnson)

In this episode of Pastors Talk, Mark Dever and Jonathan Leeman chat about how churches should care for their missionaries.Mentioned Resource:“Missions” by Andy JohnsonRelated Resources:“On Funding Missionaries” by Mark Dever, Jonathan Leeman, and Tyler Markson“Stop Sending Missionaries: Why More Isn’t...

Episode 227: On The Fear of Man

Episode 226: On Asking Deacons What They Do (with Grayson Bishop, Mathew Freeman, Jen Kim, and Rebeca Roberts)

Episode 225: On Beauty and Creativity in the Church (with Thomas Terry)

Episode 224: On Why New Testament Polity Is Prescriptive (with Bobby Jamieson)

Episode 223: On Shepherding after a Pastors Moral Failure (with Thomas Terry)

Episode 222: On Humor (with Ben Lacey)

Episode 221: On Elder Selection Process (with Bobby Jamieson)

Episode 220: On Funding Missions

Episode 219: On Pastoring in India (with Pastor Harshit)

Episode 218: A Conversation with Michael Reeves

Episode 217: On Pastoring in Afghanistan (with Josh Manley and two Afghan Pastors)