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Pathological Demand Avoidance - Trait Talking S01E01


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Pathological Demand Avoidance aka PDA - Trait Talking S01E01

In our series for the Neuroinclusive Workplace we are looking at traits, and their impact on the neurodivergent.

Today we discuss PDA; what's PDA? Pathological Demand Avoidance...

Ever been asked to do something you were literally about to do… and suddenly your brain responds with a very firm "Absolutely not"?

Welcome to the wonderfully confusing world of PDA.

In this first episode of our new Trait Talking series, we take a closer look at one of the most misunderstood neurodivergent traits. We explore why demands – whether they come from other people or from ourselves – can trigger genuine resistance, why PDA isn't about being difficult or lazy, and why so many of us end up questioning our own reactions.

We also talk about the everyday reality of living with PDA: deadlines that somehow make a task harder, the difference between procrastination and demand avoidance, why body doubling doesn't work for everyone, and how a simple change in language can make a surprising difference. Along the way, we share plenty of our own lived experiences (including unopened presents, dishwashers, DIY, hugs, and tax returns) because, as ever, neurodivergence rarely follows a straight line.

Whether you identify with PDA yourself, live with someone who does, or simply want to understand why "just do it" is rarely that simple, this episode is a compassionate introduction to a trait that's often hidden behind misunderstanding.

Because understanding what's happening inside your brain is often the first step towards being a little kinder to yourself.

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Together we can build a healthier, happier way to work!

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TIMELINE

00:00:00 - Welcome & Introduction

00:00:50 - Today's Trait - Intro to Pathological Demand Avoidance - PDA 
00:02:18 - Description of Pathological Demand Avoidance - PDA 
00:04:20 - Hannah's lived experience - the internal PDA pressure 
00:06:45 - Gaslighting yourself about your own PDA
00:08:15 - I will open presents in my own time TYVM!
00:10:20 - The "Naughty Child" label
00:12:02 - "I need that for Wednesday at 3pm" - NOPE! Better deadline scheduling
00:15:01 - Why it's not just procrastination
00:16:21 - Can bodydoubling help?   
00:17:35 - PDA affects more than just work, even making decisions comes with PDA
00:19:26 - PDA can turn up at the worst possible time too with accomplices
00:23:01 - Managing staff with PDA and the importance of context and "feeling it"
00:25:00 - Why you don't say "We need to leave now" & gaslighting your own PDA
00:26:30 - Round up and outro thank you and goodbye
00:27:15 - Hugging... nope... 
00:29:19 - Like, Share and Subscribe
00:29:45 - LENGTH

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https://here2help.uk/further-information/ - Fab resource and amazing organisation raising awareness and support for autistic suicide prevention. 

https://bigmoosecharity.co - Emergency mental health support, Big Moose provides fast and effective therapy for people who are struggling.

https://businessoddcast.com/help - our range of resources for Neurodiverse business owners, helping you thrive, survive and live more fulfilling lives.

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