Welcome back to Bekx & The White Rabbit! This week, I sit down with the self-proclaimed “Pope of Five Points,” Patrick Clifford, for a conversation that takes us deep into music history, Nashville culture, and the lifelong pursuit of finding art that actually means something. From signing The Romantics and working with Etta James, Blues Traveler, Soundgarden, and The Neville Brothers, to sharing stories about Bruce Springsteen, Bono, Cowboy Jack Clement, and the evolution of the music industry, Patrick reflects on a life spent chasing the feeling that great music gives you.

We talk about the beauty and chaos of modern Nashville, the rise of Americana, how social media has changed the way artists connect with audiences, and why authenticity still matters more than ever. Patrick opens up about grief, purpose, community, and what keeps him inspired after decades in the business, while also sharing some unbelievable behind-the-scenes stories from inside legendary recording sessions, late-night listening parties, and years spent discovering artists before the rest of the world caught on.

This episode feels like sitting in a neighborhood bar listening to someone who has truly lived through generations of music history. It’s funny, emotional, wildly insightful, and full of the kind of stories that only come from someone who never stopped loving the process of finding great music and great people.

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This podcast was produced by Bekx, Elisha Hoffman, Rebecca Lynn Howard, The Cast Collective, and Katherine Warsager.