With the province deciding to keep mask and gathering limits in place, the impact on business will continue for at least a few more weeks. Patrick Sutherland, President of the Halifax Chamber of Commerce, gives his reaction to delay in implementing Phase 5. He also discusses how this will give employers time to develop their own vaccine policies for their workers and why those are different than the one for customers. He also shares some of the reaction he's gotten from people for his very public positions on policies throughout the pandemic. The segment ends with a brief acknowledgement of Canadian comedian Norm MacDonald.