The Jann Arden Podcast

Actor, educator, and community activist Sarah McVie joins Jann Arden, Sarah Burke, and Caitlin Green to talk about her run for Mayor of Toronto and the experiences that led her there. After facing housing insecurity and sewage flooding in her own home, McVie says she wants to change how the city plans and make residents’ voices count.

The conversation explores housing and cooperative ownership, community-led planning, TTC service and safety, youth engagement, term limits, ranked ballots, and protecting Toronto’s waterways. McVie also shares why she believes in meeting people face-to-face, listening across differences, and building a city where communities have more power to shape their future.

More About Sarah McVie:

Sarah is internationally recognized for her work in television, including Workin’ Moms and The Handmaid’s Tale, and on stage with the Stratford Festival. A published playwright and arts educator, including seven years as a lecturer at Carleton University, her work finds shared understanding and connections through deep examination of human behaviour. 
In recent years, Sarah was a driving force behind the formation of the Black Creek Flood Coalition, mobilizing residents to strengthen a community facing years of neglected infrastructure. With a lifetime of community service, volunteering, serving on boards, juries, and advisory panels, she continues to champion integrity, accountability, and courage in public service.
Sarah was working on a degree in psychology at Athabasca University when she decided to put that work on pause and run for elected office of Mayor of Toronto. Her goal is to restructure City systems to deliver affordability, financial responsibility, and accountability to residents.

https://mayormcvie.ca/

https://www.instagram.com/sarahmcvie/

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Jann welcomes back high school friend Holly Fortier to delve into the complex history of Indigenous peoples in Canada ahead of September 30th, focusing on the impact of residential schools, the legacy of the Indian Act, and the ongoing journey towards truth and reconciliation. Holly shares her personal connection to these issues through the lens of her mother's experience in a residential school. 

Holly also speaks about her work in the film industry, her passion for storytelling, and the importance of Indigenous representation in the arts. She also discusses the significance of teaching Indigenous history to children, and the need for self-care and recognition of Indigenous excellence. 

More About Holly Fortier:

Holly is Cree/Dene from Ft. McKay First Nation, Alberta, was born in Treaty 7 Territory and was fortunate to be raised by cultural leaders, academics and activists. She owns a business that specializes in the development and delivery of Indigenous Awareness Training. She has been delivering trainings across Canada since 2007 to thousands and thousands of participants from government, corporate clients, educators, service organizations and first responders. 

Her passion for sharing Indigenous history and culture rises out of her mother's inspirational survival from a childhood in Indian Residential School, a story of courage, resilience and eventual triumph. Holly’s presentations go beyond facts and statistics to insightful personal testimony delivered in a compassionate, non-judgmental way. Those who attend her trainings describe them as “life changing” where they learn things they have never heard before and see complicated cultural issues with new perspective. 

Holly’s Recommended Links:

21 Things You May Not Know About the Indian Act: Helping Canadians Make Reconciliation with Indigenous Peoples a Reality By Bob Joseph

https://link.amazon/B01iEyYeB

kinanâskomitin  (Thank you in Cree)

~Holly Fortier~

www.nistoconsulting.com

www.twocanoesmedia.com

https://twocanoesmedia.com/a-mothers-voice/

https://vimeo.com/1077758553/d8f1b7aa59?share=copy&fl=sv&fe=ci

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Chapters:

(00:00) Introduction to Indigenous Stories

(03:07) The Impact of Residential Schools

(05:46) Understanding Traditional Territories

(09:02) The Historical Context of Indigenous Relations

(12:01) The Legacy of the Indian Act

(15:00) Apologies and Healing

(17:55) Cultural Genocide and Its Effects

(21:08) The Importance of Truth and Reconciliation

(23:48) The Role of Arts in Indigenous Advocacy

(26:59) Looking Forward: Hope and Change

(32:12) The Journey into Film and Storytelling

(37:22) Indigenous Representation in the Arts

(41:08) Teaching Indigenous History to Children

49:06 Self-Care and Indigenous Excellence

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Jann Arden invites friend and politician Janis Irwin to discuss the current political landscape in Alberta. They discuss the rise of misinformation, the importance of empathy in political discourse, and the need for civic engagement, especially regarding Alberta separatism.

More About Janis Irwin:

Janis Irwin was first elected to the Alberta Legislature as the NDP MLA for Edmonton-Highlands-Norwood in 2019, and was re-elected in 2023. Janis currently serves as the Shadow Minister for Housing.

Prior to being elected, Janis worked for Alberta Education as the Executive Director for High School Curriculum. She started her career in education as a high school teacher and vice principal in rural Alberta.

Janis holds a bachelor’s degree in education from the University of Alberta and a master’s degree from the University of Calgary. Janis loves being outside and spending time with her cats Oregano and Basil. 

Links from Janis:

For Alberta, For Canada – resources from the Alberta NDP:  https://foralbertaforcanada.ca/

Our Voice, Our Vote – Treaty 6’s stance on the referendum: https://www.treatysix.org/referendum

Alberta’s Voice – overview of the referendum: 

https://albertasvoice.ca/

Know the Nine – breaks down the nine questions:  

https://knowthenine.ca/

Forever Canadian – all about Question 10, staying in Canada:

https://www.forever-canadian.ca/en

Alberta NDP: Janis Irwin
Alberta NDP Caucus: Janis Irwin MLA profile
Legislative Assembly of Alberta: Current MLAs

Chapters:

(00:00) Introduction and Context of Alberta's Political Landscape

(04:47) Conversations with Constituents: Empathy and Understanding

(10:21) The Role of Misinformation and Fear in Politics

(14:46) The Importance of Voting and Civic Engagement

(20:04) Financial Insecurity and Its Impact on Political Ideology

(24:52) The Need for a Vision in Politics

(30:01) Community, Support, and Self-Care in Politics

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On this sentimental September afternoon, Jann reflects on her song Ode to a Friend off her record Happy?, released on September 23, 1997 - 30 years ago next year! The song was released as a single in 1998 and received important recognition for the writing in Jann’s 1998 JUNO nomination for Songwriter of the Year.

Jann reflects on her experiences in the studio letting some tears flow, the special guest drummer from the Traveling Wilbury's, and the bittersweet nature of friendships, and the impact of music on our lives. 

Jann also cited this Sting song...have a listen and let us know what you think!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLVq0IAzh1A

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This week, Jann welcomes the legendary Canadian blues guitarist Colin James. They discuss Colin's journey in writing his memoir Playing the Changes, reflecting on his childhood, family dynamics, and the early days of his music career. Colin shares the pivotal moments that shaped his life and career. He also reflects on growing up with the music industry and what it’s like to have a career as a musician for four decades!

More about Colin James:

Colin James OBC is one of Canada’s most beloved musicians. With twenty-one studio albums, eight Juno Awards, thirty-one Maple Blues Awards and multi-platinum sales, he continues to gain legions of fans around the world with each new record release and his sold-out tours. He’s attained seven gold-certified albums during his career, including four platinum albums and two double platinum albums.

In 2013, he was inducted into the Canadian Music Industry Hall of Fame and in 2024 was appointed to the Order of British Columbia for his contribution to shaping Canadian music.

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/780383/playing-the-changes-by-colin-james/9781039013261

⁠https://www.indigo.ca/products/playing-the-changes-a-musicians-memoir⁠

https://link.amazon/B0ayagqjf

Get Tickets to Gatsby Redux at Harboufront Centre:

Jann and Sarah mentioned Gatsby Redux at Harbourfront Centre, an immersive outdoor performance that reimagines F. Scott Fitzgerald’s literary masterpiece through dance September 27th & 28th.

Gatsby Redux

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Jann revisits the conversation we had with media powerhouses Laura Brown and Kristina O'Neill back in November 2025. They discuss their book, 'All the Cool Girls Get Fired.' Their discussion revolves around the challenges women face in the workplace, particularly the stigma associated with being fired. They share personal stories about their career setbacks and reframe failure as an opportunity for growth. The conversation highlights the emotional impact of job loss, the significance of community support, and the need for women to own their narratives and embrace new opportunities. Ultimately, the episode serves as a reminder that setbacks can lead to new beginnings and that women are not alone in their struggles. They remind us all about the importance of self-worth, closure, and the power of experience. 

Laura Brown is the founder of LB Media, and the chair of (RED)’s Creative Council. She sits on the boards of (RED), The Fashion Trust US, and me too. Movement, and Foot Soldiers Park, Selma. Previously, she was editor-in-chief ofInStyle, executive editor of Harper’s Bazaar, and senior editor at W. She earned her BA in arts and communication from Charles Sturt University in New South Wales, Australia. She lives in Manhattan with her husband.

Kristina O’Neill is head of Sotheby’s Media and editor in chief of Sotheby’s Magazine. Previously, she served as editor in chief of WSJ. Magazine, executive editor at Harper’s Bazaar, and worked at New York magazine and Time Out New York. O’Neill also serves on the board of Swedish fashion brand Toteme and is a City Meals ambassador. A graduate of NYU’s Gallatin School of Individualized Study, she serves on the Gallatin Alumni Council. O’Neill lives in Brooklyn with her family.

⁠https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/All-the-Cool-Girls-Get-Fired/Laura-Brown/9781668067451⁠

Check out their new podcast here.

Jann, Caitlin & Sarah take some time to debrief on the Toronto Blue Jays epic World Series run and Jann reminds us about the power of forgiveness as she spends a few minutes paying tribute to her former manager Neil, reflecting on the significance of mending relationships before it’s too late. 

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(00:00) Introduction to the Powerhouses

(03:02) The Catalyst for Writing the Book

(05:57) Navigating the Aftermath of Being Fired

(08:49) Understanding Personal Value and Job Loss

(12:00) Opportunities Arising from Setbacks

(14:57) Reframing Work and Identity

(18:03) Ageism and Career Transitions

(21:04) The Parallel Between Work and Personal Relationships

(22:05) The Tequila Soaked Goodbye Bash

(24:02) The Importance of Closure in Layoffs

(25:58) Dealing with Anger and Revenge

(27:26) Removing Shame from Job Loss

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Rosie O’Donnell returns to The Jann Arden Podcast for a candid conversation about her return to the public eye, the privilege of aging, feminism, relationships, motherhood, politics, and what it means to keep using your voice when the stakes feel higher than ever.

Rosie reflects on returning to television to guest-host Jimmy Kimmel Live, noting that he stuck his neck out for her, confirming the appearance before the network executives had approved the messaging.

They discuss nostalgia, legacy and Rosie's decades in entertainment, including what audiences are looking for in a media landscape increasingly shaped by misinformation, algorithms and political division. 

Rosie reflects on the independence she has fought to protect throughout her life, both personally and professionally, and why getting older has given her greater clarity about what she wants, what she will tolerate, and where she chooses to spend her energy. 

Rosie shares why she believes authenticity, empathy and genuine connection matter more than ever, and why comfort and familiarity continue to resonate so deeply with audiences, while speaking about the toll the political climate can take on mental health, especially for highly empathetic and sensitive people.

She reminds listeners why it’s important to speak out against injustice, touching on her advocacy for Epstein survivors, the moral obligation she feels to amplify people whose voices have been ignored, and the complicated territory celebrities enter when they use their platforms for activism.

Jann and Rosie also talk about feminism and the power of choice, motherhood, relationships with other women in entertainment like Barbara Streisand and P!NK, celebrity friendships, public controversy and the courage it can take to remain outspoken when silence would be easier.

At the heart of the conversation is a question about legacy: after decades in the public eye, what does Rosie O’Donnell want to do next?

Keep up with Rosie:

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Chapters:

(00:00) The Return of Rosie O'Donnell

(03:10) Navigating Relationships and Independence

(06:11) Embracing Aging and Personal Growth

(09:04) Creating Common Knowledge

(11:48) The Power of Empathy and Sensitivity

(14:55) The Impact of Politics on Mental Health

(17:49) The Future of Media and Representation

(21:00) Reflections on Career and Legacy

(28:35) Nostalgia and Legacy in Entertainment

(30:55) The Importance of Authenticity

(32:46) Advocacy for Epstein Survivors

(39:43) Personal Reflections on Life and Motherhood

(40:53) The Impact of Celebrity Relationships

(43:57) Women Supporting Women in Activism

(49:02) Navigating Controversy in Celebrity Activism

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Looking back at this conversation from October 2025, Jann revisits her conversation with WWE superstar Natalie "Nattie" Neidhart about her memoir, 'The Last Hart Beating.' They discuss Natalie's journey through wrestling, her family legacy, personal struggles, and the challenges of writing a book. Natalie shares her experiences with imposter syndrome, the importance of resilience, and the impact of her family's history on her career. The conversation highlights themes of healing, vulnerability, and the pursuit of happiness in the face of adversity.

Nattie Neidhart is a third-generation WWE Superstar who has wrestled at the highest level for nearly eighteen years. Her family, the Harts, built a wrestling dynasty spanning nearly eight decades. She is the first woman in the family to carry on the tradition and holds six world records. She and her husband TJ, along with their eight cats, reside in Tampa, Florida, where they train aspiring wrestlers in their private training facility, The Dungeon.

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⁠https://www.simonandschuster.ca/books/The-Last-Hart-Beating/Nattie-Neidhart/9781668098547⁠ 

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(00:00) Family Dynamics and Personal Experiences

(16:53) The Journey of Writing a Book

(19:55) Overcoming Vulnerability and Imposter Syndrome

(22:54) The Fight for Relevance in Wrestling

(25:53) The Wrestling Dungeon and Family Legacy

(28:53) Navigating Grief and Family Challenges

(31:44) The Future of Wrestling and Personal Aspirations

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Jann, Caitlin, and Sarah invite Thordis to recap her experience at the couple’s wedding, but also to discuss the recent Meta settlement as a leader in digital safety. 

Jann and Thordis reflect on their transition into married life, discussing the public and private aspects of their lives, particularly regarding their wedding coverage in media. 

Thordis walks us through the $18 billion Meta settlement, discussing its implications for social media platforms and child safety. They touch on the profound impact of algorithmic feeds on society, particularly concerning youth and mental health. They explore the differences between chronological and algorithmic feeds, the consequences of addictive products like those from Meta, and the importance of parental controls and societal awareness in protecting children. 

The crew wraps up with some listener voicenotes!

HELLO Magazine:

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Chapters:

(00:00) Wedding Reflections and Highlights

(13:11) Navigating Public and Private Life

(16:01) Meta's Settlement and Social Media Impact

(17:42) The Impact of Algorithmic Feeds

(22:41) Understanding Chronological vs. Algorithmic Feeds

(25:48) The Consequences of Addictive Products

(30:47) Parental Controls and Societal Awareness

(36:47) Personal Experiences and Reflections on Parenting

(41:05) Exploring Toronto's Outdoor Activities

(42:13) Back to School Excitement

(43:36) The Deep Connection Between Mothers and Children

(44:20) Fishing Adventures and Family Life

(46:55) Long-Distance Relationships and Transitioning

(48:34) Listener Engagement and Heartfelt Stories

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In this edition of Behind the Song, Jann and Sarah discuss the story behind Jann's hit song 'The Sound Of,' as inspired by a loyal listener's voicenote. They discuss the songwriting process and the themes of the song, including its exploration of one night stands and personal empowerment. This leads Jann to reflect on the challenges she faced with her record label and the legacy of her music.

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