Arkells frontman and now author Max Kerman joins the show to speak about his new book Try Hard: Creative Work in Progress. Jann asks Max about his creative process, the importance of persistence in the arts, and how to navigate the music industry. Max and Jann reflect on true artistic enthusiasm and positivity in creative pursuits, as well as the importance of networking and asking for opportunities. Max also touches on the intricate balance between the creativity and the financial aspects of being an artist, the challenges of navigating social media authentically, and the importance of community engagement. He reflects on the future of music as artists age, the significance of self-reflection, and the impact of their songs on fans.

More About Max Kerman and Try Hard:

Max Kerman is the frontman of the multiplatinum, award-winning touring band Arkells. Try Hard is his first book. Let’s say you see a familiar musician from a globe-trotting, touring band hanging out at your local coffee shop, reading the newspaper and typing away on his laptop. This doesn’t look like a musician at work. He seems approachable enough, so you ask him what exactly he does all day. With a grin on his face, he admits the job might not be what you think. So you take a seat, and ask him every question you’ve ever had about how it all works: the nuts and bolts of writing a song, preparing for a show, marketing a band, and the day-to-day business of a creative life. With each answer—none of it about talent—you realize this musician is a bit of a…try hard. And the mystery of being a creative person isn’t actually mysterious at all: it’s just exploring ideas with an enthusiastic and determined curiosity. Over and over. Max is that musician in the coffee shop, and this is what reading Try Hard feels like: one-of-a- kind tales from a dynamic frontman, and a companion to your own creative work in progress. With a brick-by-brick attitude, Max explores his own growth in the craft of storytelling and performance, the pleasure to be found in collaboration, and the creative spirit required in sharing your art.

*Photo by Nathan Nash*

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Jann Arden revisits her conversation with political leader Naheed Nenshi originally recorded in April 2024. At the time of this interview, the former mayor of Calgary was a candidate to become the leader of the Alberta's NDP Party. He won!

With the upcoming Canadian election, we thought this conversation was timely and had a lot of takeaways; from the rise of divisive politics to unity, hope, and the desire for a better Canadian future.

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Jann Arden welcomes TikTok / Instagram pal Elle James (@ShamelessElle), a rising digital star. They discuss the challenges and rewards of content creation, particularly in the political sphere, and the unique experiences women face when voicing their opinions. Elle shares her journey from comedy to political commentary and the importance of courage in speaking out. They also touch on the unique experiences of using platforms like Cameo, navigating fame while raising children, and the significance of Jann's song 'Good Mother' becoming an anthem in Canada again!

In part two, Jann catches Caitlin and Sarah up about her recent conversation with Jane Goodall, discuss the recent space flight organized by Jeff Bezos and the implications of celebrity culture in space tourism. They critique the elitism and privilege displayed by those involved, contrasting it with pressing humanitarian issues on Earth. The conversation also touches on the role of women in space, the absurdity of celebrity space travel, and the economic insecurities affecting personal relationships and the sex industry. The episode concludes with reflections on the current state of the world and the disconnect between the wealthy and the realities faced by everyday people.

More about Elle James:

Known for her humour, comedic sketches and childlike giggle, Shameless Elle creates a positive space where awkward moments and realness are embraced, inviting everyone to laugh along. Behind her humour and honesty is a woman who’s mastered the art of doing it all. Between running a salon and spa in British Columbia, raising two kids, and winning awards for charitable fundraising, she still manages to squeeze in daily chess matches - and, of course, her guilty pleasure: reality tv marathons. Behind her humour and honesty, is a woman who’s mastered the art of doing it all.

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On this week's episode of Recall, we revisit Jann's hilarious conversation with Rick Mercer back in April 2020, including the hockey net and the coffin.

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Jann and Caitlin welcome Sarah back from Chicago and the three reconnect and discuss their recent experiences regarding American travel. Their conversation highlights the shared experiences and sentiments between Canadians and Americans, especially in light of recent protests and economic concerns.

Caitlin and Jann also record an interview with Carl Radke of hit Bravo reality television series Summer House. They explore the impact of reality TV on personal struggles, the misconceptions about reality TV, and Carl's journey to sobriety. Carl shares his experiences with addiction, the impact of his brother's death, and how these events have shaped his life. The conversation also touches on the changing culture around partying and alcohol consumption, including the launch of Carl's sober bar and cafe, Soft Bar.

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Originally from Pittsburgh, Carl Radke has carved out a notable presence in the entertainment industry through his career, which spans acting and production. Since its debut in 2017, he has been a key cast member of Summer House. Known for his authenticity, Carl's sobriety journey, which began on January 8, 2021, has deeply resonated with viewers and others facing similar challenges. Carl's commitment to mental health advocacy, his active involvement with organizations like Shatterproof and Headstrong, and his holistic approach to wellness, which includes meditation and fitness, reflect his dedication to making a positive impact. Furthermore, as an entrepreneur, Carl launched Soft Bar & Cafe, an innovative venue offering sophisticated non-alcoholic cocktails, catering to a community seeking meaningful social connections without alcohol. Through his public endeavors and personal achievements, Carl continues to lead and inspire, encouraging open dialogue and transformation in mental health and wellness.

After a difficult few months of processing what happened last summer, Carl is ready to move forward with his life as he focuses on opening a bar & cafe for mindful consumption, Soft Bar. While he cautiously reenters the dating field, not even sharing a house with his pregnant ex-fiancé can bring Carl down.

Stream new episodes of Summer House Season 9 on Hayu every Wednesday at 10 PM ET.

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April's book bag pick: A Two-Spirit Journey: The Autobiography of a Lesbian Ojibwa-Cree Elder. https://www.cbc.ca/books/canadareads/shayla-stonechild-championing-a-two-spirit-journey-by-ma-nee-chacaby-wins-canada-reads-2025-1.7487829

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On this episode of Recall, Jann Arden revisits her conversation with celebrated Olympian-turned-Executive Advisor Tessa Virtue from November 2022. Jann and Sarah ask her about finding confidence on and off the ice, her relationship with Toronto Maple Leafs Defenceman Morgan Rielly, going back to school, and what she dreams of doing next!

Having retired from skating, Tessa joined Deloitte as an Executive Advisor, working with the firm's senior leaders and their clients to translate her learning and experience as a world-class, high-performance athlete to the corporate world. Specifically, Tessa has been a key member of a team creating a new approach to working with organizations to help them and their people operate in a state of performance, allowing individuals to feel and perform at their best while also elevating the performance of teams, business units and the entire organization. Drawing parallels to her experience with pressure, competition and different approaches to training and coaching, Tessa shares important lessons in mental health and well-being, both as an accomplished speaker and an advisor.

Tessa is also a member of the Order of Canada. She has her MBA from the Smith School of Business and is currently working towards her Masters of Applied Positive Psychology at the University of Pennsylvania

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This week it's just Jann and Caitlin while Sarah is away in Chicago. They start with a discussion about one of the White Lotus storylines between three women travelling for vacation (without giving anything away, promise). Caitlin brings an article to the table that details common worries and anxieties many of us feel, including health concerns and to-do lists. They talk about the positive impacts about solitude, movement, and redefining success beyond achievements like awards. They also preview this month's book bag pick from Sarah, A Two-Spirit Journey: The Autobiography of a Lesbian Ojibwa-Cree Elder.

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In this episode of Recall, we revisit Jann's conversation with the multi-talented Jonathan Torrens from December 2020 where they discuss his career, his incredible Canadian impressions, his mother's illness and Canadian Culture.

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Jann, Caitlin & Sarah discuss Jann's recent trip to Toronto for some Indigo book and vinyl events and to celebrate their collective birthday dinners at the fantastic Susur Lee's restaurant!

Jann shares how grateful she is for every emotional fan interaction when she's visiting for gigs. Caitlin brings us a reddit thread that lists the misconceptions men have about women when it comes to relationships which they debate.

They explore the concept of 'vacation roulette' as a fun new travel trend! They discuss their travel experiences, particularly focusing on upcoming trips to the U.S. and the associated concerns regarding political tensions and border security.

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In this episode of Recall, we revisit Jann's conversation with the one and only Sarah McLachlan from November 2020. They discuss first concerts, Sarah's fitness routine (including paddle boarding and hiking), and the success of Lilith Fair which she credits for funding her music school. And let's not forget, that time Jann and Sarah got into a *small* brawl on national television. 

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