This conversation explores the challenges facing Scottish education, focusing on teacher identity, accountability pressures, curriculum overload, and the need for coherent curriculum development. Paul Cochrane shares insights from his extensive experience in teaching and involvement in educational policy, emphasising the importance of teacher well-being and the role of extracurricular activities in fostering a positive learning environment. The discussion also highlights the need for research-based approaches to curriculum improvement and the importance of building relationships within the educational context.

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