Today's guest is probably your favorite magician's favorite magician. 

He’s considered one of the most influential thinkers in the world of magic.  He’s performed at The Magic Castle, every major Las Vegas casino and elite private parties and high end corporate dos. Penn & Teller refer to his performance as one of the most subtle and diabolical in the world of magic. It’s none other than Mr Paul Vigil.

Paul and I chat about his time at The Retreat, a lecture for 3 people in a Las Vegas hotel bedroom (yes, really), he shares a Johnny Thompson story, a Channing Pollock story and talks about what it means to be "fooled by a gentleman".