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0:00 - Halloween, basketball, and the changing NCAA rules
7:04 - Block’s Dessa speech model: why sound more human?
12:56 - Do human-like AI interfaces put our agency at risk?
26:27 - Can private AI compete with subsidized frontier models?
36:02 - Could Mesh LLM make local AI pay for itself?
39:54 - Binance hack and hardware wallet supply-chain risks
47:59 - Rethinking bitcoin custody as AI attacks intensify
53:59 - Frozen stablecoin collateral exposes hidden risks in DeFi
58:45 - Why Google is entering crypto self-custody
1:05:18 - Why better technology hasn’t delivered bitcoin payment adoption
1:13:31 - Is online gambling finding real demand for Lightning?
1:18:08 - Square payments: fixing checkout friction and communicating rewards
1:25:57 - AI agents and services worth paying bitcoin for
1:27:27 - Could bitcoin naming work without scaling to everyone?
1:33:30 - Will AI chat interfaces control the internet?
Show Notes:
Dessa: https://block.xyz/dessa
Mesh LLM: https://meshllm.cloud/
Spiral: https://spiral.xyz/
SUBSCRIBE:
https://www.youtube.com/@PresidioBitcoin
0:00 - PBJ returns
1:01 - AGNTCon takeaways and Goose Development Kit demos
4:48 - Sig demo: bringing decentralized AI (Mesh LLM) and bitcoin to Signal
7:05 - Paying for AI inference with bitcoin over Lightning (Lexe, Alby)
16:14 - Mesh LLM as a buyer of unused GPU compute
23:44 - Privacy, security and liability in decentralized AI compute
28:15 - Can AI agents borrow bitcoin and access credit?
41:06 - Chamath's Bitcoin-to-zero warning and assessing the real risks
46:09 - How secure and resilient is Bitcoin Core against AI-discovered vulnerabilities?
52:23 - The mathematical risks AI poses to bitcoin and cryptography
1:04:14 - Why bitcoin faces unique cybersecurity and quantum risks
1:10:04 - Using AI to rethink Tesla, SpaceX and personal investing
1:16:16 - Tesla's Full Self-Driving and changing minds on Elon
1:20:00 - The long-term investment case for Tesla and SpaceX
1:24:05 - Creating professional presentations with Claude Design
Show Notes:
goose: https://goose-docs.ai/
Mesh LLM: https://meshllm.cloud/
Chamath on bitcoin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAwG9E1W_ME&t=6428s
Claude reveals ECDSA curve origins: https://www.anthropic.com/research/ecdsa-curve-origins
Project Loupe: https://www.projectloupe.org/
0:00 - Confirming DK's identity
2:10 - Naming Open Source AI, how about Open Superintelligence?
5:53 - Open weights, open source, and model transparency
12:02 - Why NVIDIA could make Open Superintelligence real
19:50 - Is bitcoin dying from AI and quantum?
24:56 - ECDSA, and bitcoin’s assumptions
31:55 - OpenAI math breakthroughs and mathematicians’ backlash
39:04 - Winning people over with useful AI demos
49:52 - Fresh addresses, Taproot, and public key risk
57:35 - Steve's visit to Chaincode Dialogues and post-quantum bitcoin
1:02:57 - Anthropic security scans and Project Loupe
1:10:37 - Ledger supply-chain attack and hardware wallet trust
1:14:30 - Personal agents, GrokBot, and AI wallets
1:21:05 - Agent loops, email access, and deterministic control
1:33:23 - Cash App whole-coiner financing and AI banks
0:00 - NCAA chaos and travel plans
4:06 - Deepfakes and proving identity (biometrics, signed video, Face ID)
12:07 - Key storage, social recovery and webs of trust
18:43 - Ideas for PBJ: AI fact-checkers, audience agents, live summaries
29:13 - Could an AI become PBJ’s fourth host (via Goose Development Kit)?
32:21 - What the White House AI accord actually does
37:18 - The problem with traditional audits for probabilistic AI systems
43:40 - america.gov and the AI ovethaul of government services
47:56 - Starlink’s path to becoming the internet
51:39 - Starlink’s (surprising) share of global internet capacity
58:42 - Starlink's centralization risk
1:08:48 - The future of the nation state
1:15:55 - Building agent economies with bitcoin
1:24:28 - Bitcoin for agent coordination and streaming inference payments
Show Notes:
White House Super Intelligence executive order: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2026/09/inaugurating-the-era-of-super-intelligence
AI-powered government services portal: https://america.gov/
0:00 - PBJ growth, consistency, and staying ad-free
12:42 - Why PBJ changed its tagline
15:00 - AI agents the users bitcoin was waiting for
18:36 - How x402 added bitcoin and Lightning support
32:44 - Getting agents and merchants to choose bitcoin
48:26 - Open USD and the new stablecoin power structure
58:47 - Meta, Muse, and who controls agent payments
1:02:25 - Why pitch Lightning instead of bitcoin
1:09:12 - Will agents further centralize the internet?
1:14:02 - Mesh LLM: peer-to-peer inference with bitcoin payments
1:19:02 - Could Signal use Mesh LLM for private AI?
1:25:01 - Bitcoin-style incentives for a decentralized compute market
1:28:45 - Should the internet distinguish humans from agents?
1:35:06 - The emerging permissionless web stack (Nostr Blossom)
1:37:43 - Trump’s “super intelligence” rebrand and AI policy
SHOW NOTES:
x402: https://block.xyz/inside/block-joins-the-x402-foundation-to-advance-open-agentic-commerce
Open USD: https://x.com/openstandard/status/2103152613634293959
Radar: https://radar.particle.pro/
0:00 - How Buzz and GrokBot changed PBJ show prep
9:15 - Building a bitcoin-native agent with GrokBot
17:16 - Why agents will need bitcoin
19:08 - Integrating bitcoin payments into Mesh LLM
23:22 - Bitcoin vs stablecoins for agent payments (bitcoin's edge)
34:52 - Designing online services for agents
37:44 - Using GrokBot: building, personal assistant, convenience and security tradeoffs
43:39 - Passwords, 2FA and credentials for agents
56:55 - Why AI needs a new peer-to-peer internet
1:02:16 - Defining AGI, ASI and autonomous agency
1:05:50 - Who is liable for runaway agents?
1:16:28 - Can regulation keep up with frontier AI?
1:25:43 - AI hacking and the questions of agency and autonomy
1:31:01 - Spiral’s open-source AI film and interactive media ideas
SHOW NOTES:
https://meshllm.cloud/
0:00 - Special Thursday PBJ
0:59 - How Blockstream Liquid works and how it was hacked
6:57 - The strange (extortionate?) “white hat” twist
10:45 - AI security scanning and Liquid’s 'fix' that made things worse
12:50 - What the Liquid hack reveals about federations and custody
20:07 - How Blockstream plans to make Liquid users whole
26:08 - Open Source AI Summit takeaways
31:30 - Anthropic and the threat to open-source AI
39:51 - Open protocols for agents, identity and memory
43:32 - Vora reveals stunning private, local AI hardware
SHOW NOTES:
https://opensourceaisummit.org/
https://vora.io/
0:00 - Opening banter
0:40 - PBJ Topic Explorer
7:34 - Particle Radar brings AI search for the world’s podcasts
12:35 - Voya Energy's new approach to metal fuels for storage
23:25 - Nvidia doubles down on open-source AI (Hugging Face acquisition)
35:45 - Using GrokBot for long-horizon research
41:54 - Giving agents long-running goals
46:59 - New security risks and attack surfaces from trusting other agents
53:09 - Is Twitter or Cursor’s data more valuable?
1:03:50 - AI security investigations are getting harder
1:06:55 - Core Lightning vulnerabilities and disclosure dilemma
1:18:35 - How far ahead are frontier AI models?
1:23:36 - Building a market for cheap, spare compute
1:30:30 - Darkbloom’s decentralized (Mac) inference network
SHOW NOTES:
PBJ Topic Explorer: https://pbarchive.ai/topics/
Voya Energy: https://www.voya.energy/news/voya-energy-unveils-a-new-metal-fuels-energy-system-closes-35-million-series-a
Darkbloom: https://www.darkbloom.dev/
0:00 - What's behind bitcoin's rally?
8:33 - Open Source AI Summit and questions for David Sacks
18:00 - Berd and Block’s growing stack of open-source AI agents
22:30 - Alby's TaskFuel simplifying payments for agents
30:14 - The missing credential layer for agents
36:46 - Making sense of Stripe’s OpenRouter acquisition
48:02 - What's OpenRouter’s moat?
52:50 - Apple, OpenAI and the battle for user intent
57:46 - Making the internet infinitely programmable
1:07:47 - BlackRock's new case for bitcoin
1:21:03 - What causes bitcoin’s four-year cycle?
1:26:25 - Strategy's notable resilience
1:30:49 - Is bitcoin becoming more centralized and how best to measure it?
SHOW NOTES:
https://opensourceaisummit.org/
https://www.blackrock.com/us/financial-professionals/literature/whitepaper/re-underwriting-bitcoin.pdf
0:00 - Last week’s breakout episode
1:36 - Bitcoin, AI and energy are starting to converge
12:06 - Announcing the Type II Summit
15:05 - Panthalassa and offshore compute
17:30 - Introducing the PB Media Archive (pbarchive.ai)
22:15 - Reexamining podcast accountability and ad incentives post-COLDCARD
34:55 - The BTCPay Server exploit (happening in real time)
36:11 - No software project should assume it’s safe
41:20 - Why closed source won’t protect software from AI (OpenAI–Hugging Face incident)
53:40 - Project Loupe’s approach to AI security scanning & learnings
1:01:30 - The push to get early AI access for bitcoin developers
1:06:30 - How the COLDCARD incident has rallied bitcoin security (e.g., Bitcoin Red Team)
1:13:00 - The hidden risks of DIY bitcoin entropy
1:21:50 - Was the COLDCARD hack an inside job?
1:28:24 - Rethinking responsible disclosure in the AI era
1:35:12 - How vulnerable is the Lightning Network to AI?
1:37:25 - Will agents choose bitcoin or create something new?
1:42:45 - White-hat hacking, recovery and property rights
1:54:48 - Spiral’s idea for a neutral protocol for multi-vendor wallet security
SHOW NOTES:
PB Media Archive: https://pbarchive.ai/
COLDCARD PBJ: https://youtube.com/live/cSXOmwI38Jo?feature=share
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PBJ is a weekly live show recorded at Presidio Bitcoin about open money and open intelligence. Join David King, Steve Lee, and Max Webster, longtime open technology advocates with deep roots in…