In this episode, we sit down with Andre DeSautel, fresh off his match-winning performance at the IDPA National Championship, and John Paul, founder of JP Enterprises. Andre discusses his impressive victory in the PCC (Pistol Caliber Carbine) division using the JP-5™, securing the overall match win against over 350 top competitors. John Paul reflects on Andre's adaptability from USPSA to IDPA and the growing presence of PCC in the sport. We also dive into the future of PCC competitions and what’s next for both Andre and John.