Jonathan and Moataz talk Israel, conflict and peace. Plus an exclusive interview with Fauda creator Avi Issacharoff.

Jonathan and Moataz interview the influencer, commentator and famous detransitioner, Oli London, who has just returned from a fact finding trip to Israel to see the aftermath of the Hamas 7 October massacres. They also discuss the BBC's drop in internet traffic compared to the massive rise in visits to other sites.

Theme music by Daniel Green

Cover art by Amir Levy

Moataz criticises Owen Jones for saying there was no evidence of rape in the Israeli compilation video showing Hamas’ own footage of its atrocities carried out on 7th October. Moataz gives context from his own upbringing as a an Egyptian Muslim.

Jonathan and Moataz interview Mohammad Darawshe, an Israeli politician who has spent his career working for coexistence. His cousin, Awad Darawshe was killed by Hamas terrorists on 7th October as he worked in the Nova Festival trying to treat the injured. He had assumed that as a fellow Arab, the Palestinian terrorists would spare his life as he heroically tended to those in need.

[Theme tune by Daniel Green]