Pedja Klasnja swings by the show to discuss his viewpoints as a methodologist on the outskirts of Implementation Science, from the standpoint of Human-Computer Interaction and Health Informatics. At some point in the show Kevin falls in love with Pedja, but we're not sure if Pedja noticed. 

Referenced in this episode: 

Kilbourne, A.M., Geng, E., Eshun-Wilson, I. et al. How does facilitation in healthcare work? Using mechanism mapping to illuminate the black box of a meta-implementation strategy. Implement Sci Commun 4, 53 (2023). https://doi.org/10.1186/s43058-023-00435-1