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Pedologues Episode #14
Episode #14 of Pedologues.
Pedologues is a podcast focused on issues surrounding inter-generational relationships, pedophilia, child sexuality, culture, society's views on these issues, law, and everyday life.
The first three episodes were cohosted by Rookiee and Abraxas. Episode four was formatted as an interview with Rebellee of the website boylover(dot)net. Subsequent episodes have been recorded via online Skype conversations and pieced together in post-production.
After 20 episodes, Rookiee announced the termination of the series, citing time constraints, financial burdens, and other personal reasons, and removed all episodes from the Pedologues homepage. Here we present an archive of all episodes released.
Pedologues Episode 14 (30 December 2005) Rookiee, Boy Story, Ashley, Jack (SQIR), and Chubby summary:
Jack's message.
Thank you Rookiee for making episode 12 in a public space - a restaurant. I heard about the Xmas podcast taken off because of “offensive material”. You are exercising your first amendment right to free speech. That is what is great about America where we can exercise our rights, so long as it doesn’t infringe upon the rights of people, or break any other laws. Your comment about our culture being enslaved by fear is true, and I think that fear comes from the media. The opinions of broadcaster such as Fox and CNN create a pull on people, especially at election time. The accusation of you stalking a boy at the Portable Media Expo, just demonstrates how unstable people can be if everything they see or hear has a sexual intention. (00:00 to 03:37)
Waffle. (03:38 to 08:01)
Bibcam boy.
New York Times article about a boy that had been doing bibcams since he was 13 years old. Bibcam boy is a boy posing or stripping online. He made thousands of dollars from people paying for his recordings. He had roughly 1500 customers by the end. Boy Story: he started off in chatrooms. One correspondent said he would give him twenty dollars to take off his shirt. The correspondent set up a PayPal account for him, and introduced other punters, which then progressed from taking off his shirt, to no clothes, to masturbating, to having sex with others on camera. It was not prostitution, because the punters were voyeurs. Rookiee: I have no problem with that from a moral perspective. (08:02 to 12:49)
Double standards.
Rookiee: a 13yo and a 10yo recently got busted for entering someone’s house and stealing items. The article called them young children. The 13yo is not a child; he is a teenager. The article used spin to give the story more sensationalism. Boy Story: the legal system in some instances, try 10 and 11yo children as if they were adults. (08:02 to 14:45)
Introductions 1.
Boy Story: from episodes 9 and 10. Ashley: 31yo heard of SQIR through Pedologues, and I heard of Pedologues through boylover.net. Currently working with Boy Story on creating a comic strip called Little Ash, to show pictorially what boy love is about. Rookiee: how far are you going to go with it? Ashley: quite far, but focus will be on the nature of boy love. How did you find out about SQR, Chubby? Chubby: known Geoff Gold since 2002, so known SQR for a year now. I was on Bliss for a few months, then BoyLovers United opened. Aidan Gorey asked me to join, and I was there for two months when he asked me to be a moderator of the main forum of valley of dreams. Problems with the BoyLovers United forum subsequently, meant I decided to step down. In the meantime I have been on various boards and chatrooms, including SQIR. (14:46 to 22:37)
South Africa scene.
Rookiee: how does Apartheid and the dynamic of South Africa’s society impact the boylove community in that country? Chubby: the gay community is quite sizeable in the Western Cape and in Cape Town. The age of consent is 16. However, if you are older than 19, it is illegal to have sex with someone younger than yourself, to keep mutual intimacy at the peer level. I have been brought up to be racially pure, so I would never in my heart, be able to have a relationship with a black girl. Boy Story: during the years of segregation in America’s south, racism was taught to white children. The same is true of South Africa. Chubby: agreed. (22:38 to 34:09)
Introductions 2.
Jack: Boylinks.net brought me here when they posted the SQIR on their front page in November. I do a podcast – see Jack message above. (34:10 to 36:39)
Parent boylover.
Rookiee: I have a friend who is a parent and a boylover. He would never want to see his child behaving sexually towards anyone, even though he is sexually attracted to boys. There is a conflict there because he has an instinctive need to protect his child. Ashley: parents treat their children as if they are property. Chubby: one of my young friends, a boy of 14, arrived home late. The boy’s room was an annex to the main house. His father wondered why his son was late and didn’t stop by to say good night. He went to the boy’s room which was in dark. He told the boy to step into the house for a chat. The father then gave him a talk about AIDs, using a condom, and how dangerous it all is. He added, just remember, you can do what you want, but please protect yourself. Rookiee: to me that sounds sensible and caring. (36:40 to 43:49)
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Pedologues is a podcast focused on issues surrounding inter-generational relationships, pedophilia, child sexuality, culture, society's views on these issues, law, and everyday life.
The first three episodes were cohosted by Rookiee and Abraxas. Episode four was formatted as an interview with Rebellee of the website boylover(dot)net. Subsequent episodes have been recorded via online Skype conversations and pieced together in post-production.
After 20 episodes, Rookiee announced the termination of the series, citing time constraints, financial burdens, and other personal reasons, and removed all episodes from the Pedologues homepage. Here we present an archive of all episodes released.
Pedologues Episode 14 (30 December 2005) Rookiee, Boy Story, Ashley, Jack (SQIR), and Chubby summary:
Jack's message.
Thank you Rookiee for making episode 12 in a public space - a restaurant. I heard about the Xmas podcast taken off because of “offensive material”. You are exercising your first amendment right to free speech. That is what is great about America where we can exercise our rights, so long as it doesn’t infringe upon the rights of people, or break any other laws. Your comment about our culture being enslaved by fear is true, and I think that fear comes from the media. The opinions of broadcaster such as Fox and CNN create a pull on people, especially at election time. The accusation of you stalking a boy at the Portable Media Expo, just demonstrates how unstable people can be if everything they see or hear has a sexual intention. (00:00 to 03:37)
Waffle. (03:38 to 08:01)
Bibcam boy.
New York Times article about a boy that had been doing bibcams since he was 13 years old. Bibcam boy is a boy posing or stripping online. He made thousands of dollars from people paying for his recordings. He had roughly 1500 customers by the end. Boy Story: he started off in chatrooms. One correspondent said he would give him twenty dollars to take off his shirt. The correspondent set up a PayPal account for him, and introduced other punters, which then progressed from taking off his shirt, to no clothes, to masturbating, to having sex with others on camera. It was not prostitution, because the punters were voyeurs. Rookiee: I have no problem with that from a moral perspective. (08:02 to 12:49)
Double standards.
Rookiee: a 13yo and a 10yo recently got busted for entering someone’s house and stealing items. The article called them young children. The 13yo is not a child; he is a teenager. The article used spin to give the story more sensationalism. Boy Story: the legal system in some instances, try 10 and 11yo children as if they were adults. (08:02 to 14:45)
Introductions 1.
Boy Story: from episodes 9 and 10. Ashley: 31yo heard of SQIR through Pedologues, and I heard of Pedologues through boylover.net. Currently working with Boy Story on creating a comic strip called Little Ash, to show pictorially what boy love is about. Rookiee: how far are you going to go with it? Ashley: quite far, but focus will be on the nature of boy love. How did you find out about SQR, Chubby? Chubby: known Geoff Gold since 2002, so known SQR for a year now. I was on Bliss for a few months, then BoyLovers United opened. Aidan Gorey asked me to join, and I was there for two months when he asked me to be a moderator of the main forum of valley of dreams. Problems with the BoyLovers United forum subsequently, meant I decided to step down. In the meantime I have been on various boards and chatrooms, including SQIR. (14:46 to 22:37)
South Africa scene.
Rookiee: how does Apartheid and the dynamic of South Africa’s society impact the boylove community in that country? Chubby: the gay community is quite sizeable in the Western Cape and in Cape Town. The age of consent is 16. However, if you are older than 19, it is illegal to have sex with someone younger than yourself, to keep mutual intimacy at the peer level. I have been brought up to be racially pure, so I would never in my heart, be able to have a relationship with a black girl. Boy Story: during the years of segregation in America’s south, racism was taught to white children. The same is true of South Africa. Chubby: agreed. (22:38 to 34:09)
Introductions 2.
Jack: Boylinks.net brought me here when they posted the SQIR on their front page in November. I do a podcast – see Jack message above. (34:10 to 36:39)
Parent boylover.
Rookiee: I have a friend who is a parent and a boylover. He would never want to see his child behaving sexually towards anyone, even though he is sexually attracted to boys. There is a conflict there because he has an instinctive need to protect his child. Ashley: parents treat their children as if they are property. Chubby: one of my young friends, a boy of 14, arrived home late. The boy’s room was an annex to the main house. His father wondered why his son was late and didn’t stop by to say good night. He went to the boy’s room which was in dark. He told the boy to step into the house for a chat. The father then gave him a talk about AIDs, using a condom, and how dangerous it all is. He added, just remember, you can do what you want, but please protect yourself. Rookiee: to me that sounds sensible and caring. (36:40 to 43:49)