In this episode, Julie is joined by Jeremy Johnston-Kaye to talk about the phenomenon of Pedro Pascal. We consider him as an example of modern masculinity and fatherhood, both from the perspective of his real-life persona and his characters in Last of Us, Game of Thrones, Narcos, and more.

In this episode we reference:

Offline with Jon Favreau

BoyMom by Ruth Whippman

The Giving Tree by Shel Silverstein

The Material Girls podcast with Marcelle Kosman and Hannah McGregor

The Body is a Doorway by Sophie Strand

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