Part I. Pegasus: A Spyware that Threatens Privacy and Democracy. 

Guest: Sandrine Rigaud is a French investigative journalist. She is an editor of

Part 2. The Implications of Indicting a Former President or a Presidential Candidate

Guest: Karen Greenberg is director of the Center on National Security at Fordham Law School. She is an expert on national security and the author of The Least Worst Place: Guantanamo’s First 100 Days and, most recently, Rogue Justice: The Making of the Security State.

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