It's the interview that caused Liz Truss's major headache on day 3 of Tory Party Conference. Matt Chorley speaks to Commons Leader Penny Mordaunt who says she hopes benefits will rise in line with inflation, a commitment the Prime Minister has not made.

AND earlier this week Mordaunt joked about the bad communications strategy over the mini-budget, so Matt also convenes a crack team of government comms experts to advise on how the government can improve.

PLUS: James Forsyth and David Aaronovitch on all the chaos.

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