People First! with Morag Barrett

What if the leadership model we’ve been celebrating for decades is the very thing holding teams back?

In this episode of People First!, Morag Barrett sits down with Bill Flynn — leadership thinker, author of Further, Faster, and longtime student of the science of success — to challenge the myth of the heroic leader.

Drawing on 30 years of research and lived experience, Bill shares:

• Why having one real relationship at work matters more than talent alone
• Why the future of leadership belongs to architects, not heroes

This is a candid, grounded conversation about relationships, opportunity, and what actually creates impact over time.
If you care about leadership that scales, cultures that last, and careers built on connection — this episode is for you.

In this episode of People First!, Morag Barrett explores workplace relationships, leadership trust, and human connection with Vered Kogan, discussing how leaders build Meaning-FULL Connectivity™ in increasingly disconnected workplaces.

Vered Kogan is an author, speaker, and transformational coach, and joins Morag to explore why so many high-performing leaders feel stuck—despite doing everything “right.”

Vered is the co-author of Unstuck, written with Marshall Goldsmith, and her work focuses on helping individuals and organisations overcome the inner barriers that block sustainable growth and change.

Together, Morag and Vered unpack the hidden dynamics that keep capable, driven people trapped in cycles of overdrive, self-doubt, and exhaustion—and what it actually takes to break free.

In this conversation, you’ll hear:

• Why pushing harder often increases anxiety, burnout, and resistance
• The difference between knowing what to do and being able to do it consistently
• How unconscious “protective parts” shape our behaviour without us realising it
• Why what got you here may now be keeping you stuck
• How perfectionism, overachievement, and control can quietly work against us
• The SHIFT framework for creating internal alignment and lasting change
• Why sustainable growth requires inner harmony—not just better habits or discipline

This episode is for leaders, entrepreneurs, and high achievers who feel pressure to keep performing—but sense that something deeper needs to shift.

If you’ve ever thought, “I’m doing all the right things—so why does this still feel so hard?” This conversation will resonate.

Learn More...

Website: www.MomentumInstitute.com

LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/veredkogan/

YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@VeredKogan 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/veredkogan/

In this episode of People First!, Morag Barrett explores workplace relationships, leadership trust, and human connection with Dr. Riza Kadilar, discussing how leaders build Meaning-FULL Connectivity™ in increasingly disconnected workplaces.

Dr Riza Kadilar is a global executive, leadership thinker, and author of The Contemporary Leader.

They first met at Thinkers50 in London — a moment that became a living example of inclusion in action — and that spirit carries through this wide-ranging, honest conversation about what inclusive leadership really requires when things get uncomfortable.

This is not a conversation about slogans, policies, or box-ticking. It’s about power, privilege, maturity, and the inner work leaders must do if inclusion is going to move from intention to impact.

In this episode, you’ll hear:

• Why diversity is inevitable — but inclusion is not
• How well-meaning leaders unintentionally undermine inclusion through everyday behaviour
• The difference between being invited to the party and actually feeling able to dance
• Why inclusion is as much an inner journey as a societal one
• How privilege shifts with context — and why awareness matters more than guilt
• The paradox of inclusive leadership and the loneliness many leaders experience
• Why exclusion is easier to spot than inclusion — and how that awareness becomes a choice
• How curiosity, discomfort, and humility shape the contemporary leader

This episode is for leaders who genuinely want to build cultures where people feel seen, heard, and valued — not because it’s fashionable, but because it’s essential for performance, resilience, and humanity.

If inclusion feels complicated, uncomfortable, or even threatening at times — you’re not alone. This conversation helps name why.

📘 Learn more

• The Contemporary Leader (Wiley)
• Connect with Dr. Riza Kadilar on LinkedIn

Remote and hybrid work aren’t going away — but trust doesn’t magically survive the shift.

In this People First! episode, I’m joined by Peggy Kendall, researcher, professor of communication studies, and co-author of Trust at a Distance: Six Strategies for Managing Remote Workplaces. Peggy has been studying the impact of technology on communication since the days of MySpace, and her insights couldn’t be more relevant for today’s leaders.

Together, we unpack what actually builds trust when teams are dispersed — and what quietly erodes it.

In this conversation, we explore:

• Why trust takes longer to build online — but can be stronger when done well
• The hidden cost of leaders saying “let me know if you have questions”
• How assumptions, silence, and multitasking quietly damage psychological safety
• The six strategies leaders must use to build trust at a distance: Amplify communication; Clarify direction; Build predictability; Redefine accountability; Create connection; Leverage in-person experiences.
• Why predictable check-ins matter more than long meetings
• How proximity bias hurts remote employees — often without leaders realizing it
• Why hybrid work can increase inclusion, confidence, and access when led intentionally

If you’re leading a remote or hybrid team — or working in one — this episode will challenge some assumptions and give you practical, research-backed ways to strengthen trust, connection, and performance.

📘 Learn more about Peggy Kendall & the book:

Trust at a Distance — available on Amazon

Website: PeggyKendall.com

Trust Edge Leadership Institute (David Horsager)

In this People First! episode, I sit down with Laura Armstrong — 3x world champion martial artist, international speaker, bestselling author, and creator of The Empowered Protocol — for a conversation about what actually builds resilient, connected, high-performing leaders.

Laura spent nearly a decade earning silver and bronze medals before finally breaking through to gold. The difference wasn’t talent, discipline, or sheer force of will — it was support. And that insight now shapes everything she teaches leaders about emotional regulation, safety, team connection, and why going it alone is the fastest way to underperform.

This episode challenges the myth of the heroic, solo leader and instead focuses on how grounded, emotionally aware leaders create trust, stability, and results.

What we explore:

• Why leaders sabotage themselves by trying to do everything alone
• How fear shuts down creativity, collaboration, and innovation — often silently
• The real meaning of resilience (hint: it’s not about powering through)
• Somatic tools leaders can use to regulate emotion in real time
• The “pause point” that separates reaction from response
• Why calm leadership spreads calm — and panic spreads chaos
• How to build the support networks leaders actually need
• Why labels and old identities (the “brilliant jerk,” the “tough one,” the “world champion”) eventually stop serving us
• How to step into authentic power without posturing or perfection

If you’re navigating tough conversations, overloaded teams, persistent stress, or a culture where fear is doing more damage than anyone admits, this one offers a practical path forward.

📌 Connect with Laura:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurayarmstrong/

TalkWithLaura.com

What does leadership look like when the situation is unclear, emotions are high, and everyone is waiting for you to make the next move?

In this episode of People First!, I’m joined by Lt. General (Ret.) Karen Gibson, a leader who has guided teams through war zones, national emergencies, hurricanes, cybersecurity crises, and the aftermath of January 6 - experiences most of us hope will never appear on our calendars.

Karen is living proof that no amount of technology or process ever replaces the fundamentals: clarity, steadiness, humanity, and the courage to act before you have the full picture.

We explore:
 • The moment she realized leadership is always a human endeavor
• Why timing and triage matter more than certainty
• What most leaders get wrong about communication in crisis
• The emotional toll teams experience after a major event
• The practical skills leaders can build before the next “front-page moment” hits

Her stories are gripping. Her lessons are generous. And her message is one every leader in today’s unpredictable world needs to hear.

In this episode of People First!, Morag Barrett talks with Preston Poore—executive coach, author, and former Coca-Cola leader—about his new book, How Is Greater Than What: The Simple Formula for Success in Leadership.

They discuss why how you lead matters more than what you accomplish, the role of identity and integrity in effective leadership, and how to stay grounded in a world shaped by technology and AI.

In this episode, you'll learn:

1. Why “start with who” might matter more than “start with why”
2. The link between integrity, trust, and authentic leadership
3. Lessons from Preston’s 30-year corporate career
4. How faith, values, and self-awareness shape long-term success

Perfect for leaders, managers, and professionals seeking practical insights on character, connection, and culture in the modern workplace.

Learn More:

https://prestonpoore.com/

In this People First! episode, I sit down with my dear friend and fellow connection-evangelist Dr. Michelle K. Johnston — top executive coach, business professor, bestselling author, and now the voice behind The Seismic Shift in You.

We dig into the uncomfortable truth:
We’re more digitally connected than at any time in human history…
…and yet more lonely, isolated, anxious, and burnt out than ever before.

Michelle calls it a “crisis of disconnection” — one backed by global research, neuroscience, and the devastating health data shared by U.S. Surgeon General Vivek Murthy.

In this episode we explore:

• Why connection is a biological need — as essential as food and water
• How hybrid work, AI, and phone addiction are accelerating a global loneliness epidemic
• The seven seismic shifts leaders must make — starting with shifting from what to who
• Why productivity without connection creates emptiness (Michelle’s newest mic-drop quote)
• How the calendar has become the biggest predictor of well-being
• The difference between communication and true connection
• Why leaders must intentionally design moments — not just meetings
• The wake-up call Michelle experienced when her daughter came home and said, “Mom, I haven’t seen you.”

If you’re feeling stretched thin, disconnected, or suspicious that the “new normal” doesn’t feel normal at all… this episode will give you grounding and a path forward.

Learn more:
michellekjohnston.com
The Seismic Shift in You now available everywhere books are sold.

In this People First! conversation, I sit down with Mark C. Crowley — visionary leader, bestselling author, and longtime advocate for human-centered leadership — to unpack the big idea behind his new book, The Power of Employee Wellbeing. Mark spent 25+ years leading in financial services, disproving the myth that performance comes from pressure, control, and fear. His data-backed approach shows the opposite: people thrive when leaders care about them as human beings, not just producers. And wellbeing — not engagement — is the real lever. His personal story sets the stage: early trauma, an unexpected mentor who offered belonging, and a career built on giving others the support he never had .

In this episode, he breaks down why wellbeing drives performance, why engagement surveys failed, and what leaders must do now.

⭐ What we cover:

• The emotional roots of human motivation — and why “thinking” has far less to do with performance than we assume
• Why engagement scores didn’t budge for a decade, despite billions spent on them
• The simple, actionable wellbeing questions that uncover what actually improves performance
• The #1 driver of wellbeing — belonging — and why people quit teams, not companies
• How fear shuts down trust, innovation, and contribution
• What leaders get wrong about caring (“love your people” is not soft — it’s science)
• How to ask for honest feedback when your employees want to tell you you’re great (even when you aren’t)
• Why every leader must answer the question: Do your people feel they matter here?

Mark’s message is blunt but hopeful: wellbeing is not a perk — it’s a performance strategy.
And you don’t need a company-wide initiative to start changing outcomes. You can start today.

📗 Learn more about Mark:
Website: markccrowley.com
LinkedIn: Mark C. Crowley
Books: The Power of Employee Wellbeing and Lead from the Heart

Most of us were taught to “check emotions at the door.”
Turns out… your nervous system never got that memo.

In this week’s People First! episode, I sit down with Andrea Wanerstrand, a leadership strategist and founder of A3 Culture Lab, who helps leaders shift from burnout to bold influence.

We talk about:
 💭 The three brains you bring to every conversation
⚡ Why awareness isn’t enough — and what to do with it
💬 How to show up with intention, even on the tough days

Andrea’s insights blend neuroscience, emotional intelligence, and practical leadership wisdom in a way that makes you stop and think about how you feel at work — and how others feel around you.

🎙️ Tune in to hear how to reset your mindset, regulate your energy, and lead with authenticity.

Learn more about Andrea:
Website: https://a3culturelab.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreawanerstrand/