At almost every moment of the day Jessica Clowers is surround by animals. She lives, works, and plays with a literal menagerie, and has done so her entire life. It seems only fitting she’d find herself as the curator of animal health at a zoo. Her passion for human psychology and the macabre, however, sets her apart from your typical farm-raised zookeeper.

My guest this week, Jon Payne, didn't know anything about motorcycles or photoshop when he became the marketing director for a major motorcycle dealership that represents six different brands. He knew even less about marketing when he decided to make that his life's ambition. Listen this week to hear how family, music, sports, and pro wrestling have influenced Jon's life and successes, for better and for worse. Find out what it's like to market for an industry with such lore and culture, and the hear stories of how crazy it can get sometimes.

Alex Minard joins me in the first episode to talk about cutting meat, music, and fatherhood. I mean, we talk about WAY more, but I needed something quick and clever for the short description.

Alex is a New Jersey native, now living in Knoxville, TN where he works as a meat cutter. While some people may not see that as a glamorous job, Alex takes a lot of pride in his work. We'll talk about what separates good meat cutters from bad, the worst part of the day, and his biggest professional success.

In the second segment, we dive into Alex's family life, his kids, and the passion for photography he shares with his wife. We'll also talk about Alex's introduction to the music scene when he arrived in Knoxville, and all the stuff that goes with being in a band.

Sadly, the episode ends abruptly with computer issues, but you can access all of Alex's projects, art, music, and writing thanks to the internet. Along with being a father, and photographer, Alex makes music of all genres, and has published a novel. You NEED to check out his stuff. I implore you.

https://www.instagram.com/ogminard

https://soundcloud.com/fishmongertennementblock

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1491221100/ref=cm_sw_r_em_api_c_MjjEAb7D5BCBA

Whether it's the meat cutter at your grocery store that makes rap albums and writes novels, or the guy that fixes your car during the day and goes to barber school at night, some of the most interesting and passionate people are right in your neighborhood.